Seljuk Appreciation Thread

[Jana]

Were they of same stock as Ottomans,or different ethnically and genetically?

[Kyp]

Were they of same stock as Ottomans,or different ethnically and genetically?

Same stock: Oghuz Turks

Part of the same migration into West Asia and earlier empire. Turks in Anatolia, Balkans and Azerbaijan/Iran all descend from this migration.

[Kaspias]

Were they of same stock as Ottomans,or different ethnically and genetically?

Same stock. Ottomans are descendants of Seljuks.

Oghuz Yabgu > Great Seljuk > Anatolian Seljuk > Anatolian Beyliks > Ottoman domination.

I predict MA2196 dates to Seljuk period although it is labeled Ottoman there is no radiocarbon test applied. So, there is a chance Turks were already mixed when entered Anatolia.(DA89 is the best candidate for non-mixed Oghuz) But in any chance, majority or all of the Anatolian admixture, Balkan admixture and Tatar admixture introduced with the Ottoman Empire.

[Kyp]

Seljuk era twin towers (mausolea) in Qazvin, Iran (build in 1068)

[Kyp]

Tughrul Tower in Rey (Iran)

The 20-metre-tall (66 ft) brick tower is the tomb of Seljuk ruler Tuğrul Beg, who died in Rey in 1063.

Originally, the tower was taller and capped by a conical dome. The cone collapsed in an earthquake and Rey became a ruin after a Mongol raid. In the mid-19th century drawings by French orientalist, painter and archaeologist Eugène Flandin (1809-1889), the city is still seen in a state of ruin while the tower bears damages.

In 1882, the tower was restored by the order of Qajar king Nasser al-Din Shah (1831-1896). Since then it has what it takes to be called decent. It is listed as a national heritage and belongs to Iran’s Cultural Heritage, Handicrafts and Tourism Organization.

[Bender1999]

The father of Westasian Turks, Alp Arslan, demeans Romanos IV. A Byzantine? artwork:

[ombustman]

‛Ayyūqī’s theme is the love between a youth named Varqa and a maiden named Golšāh. Their fathers are two Arab brothers named Homām and Helāl, who are the chiefs of a tribe, the Banū Šabīh. On the day fixed for Golšāh’s marriage to Varqa, she is abducted by enemies under the leadership of Rabī‛ b. ‛Adnān. Numerous fights, in which Varqa’s father and Rabī‛ and his two sons are killed, take place before Golšāh is rescued. Golšāh’s father, however, now withholds consent for her marriage to Varqa because Varqa is too poor. Varqa therefore goes to the court of his maternal uncle, Monḏer king of the Yemen, in the hope of making money. During his absence, the king of Syria induces Golšāh’s mother to give him her daughter in marriage. When Varqa comes home with much wealth, he is told that Golšāh is dead. He discovers this to be a lie, and goes to Syria in search of Golšāh, but receives so much hospitality and kindness from the Syrian king that he cannot honorably break the bond of gratitude and is therefore obliged to part from Golšāh. Soon afterward he dies of grief. When Golšāh learns of his death, she goes to his grave and, while lamenting there, also passes away. Their tomb becomes a place of pilgrimage to which both Jews and Muslims resort. One year after the tragedy, the Prophet Moḥammad passes by the place. After requiring the Jews [of Damascus] to become Muslims, he resurrects Varqa and Golšāh, who then at last are united. [The King of Damascus gives them each 20 years of his own life.]

http://warfare.ga/Turk/Romance_of_Va..._Gulshah-1.htm

[Trachian_Nefer]

I wish we still built using their architechture honestly.

[Varda]