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    The Fatamids dealt with them



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    Last attempt by (great sultan) Muhammad son of Melik Shah to take Syria into the centralized control based in Iran.
    Turcoman general Bursuq (governor of Hamadan province in Iran) is sent to Syria.
    He fails as he faces not only Norman crusaders, but also local independent Turks cooperating with Franks (Artukid Ilgazi, Tuğtekin from Damascus).
    These local Turkish rulers cooperate with Franks to avoid losing their own realms to the Sultan.




    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    The Fatamids dealt with them
    Fatimids were kicked out by Seljuks. Ultimately clients of Seljuks removed them.
    This thread isn't for Arab propaganda.
    Last edited by Böri; 07-22-2018 at 11:56 AM.

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    Yeah I appreciate Konya and Seljuks, Alaaddin Keykubad.

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    Real Crusades History (pro-crusader Catholic Western youtube channel) podcast about the 1101 Crusader expedition into the lands of Seljuks of Rum.
    It was a decisive victory for the Turks. Seljuks fought for their survival in 1101, after they lost Aegean coast and Marmara in 1097. Turks could win this time.

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    Default First Seljuk-Byzantine war: Pasinler 1048

    Many people think of the battle of Manzikert in 1071 as the first arrival of Turks to the region. That's not correct though. Manzikert was the decisive battle which sealed the fate of the struggle.
    The first major encounter was at Pasinler (Kapetron) in 1048 AD, which is in modern-day Erzurum region of eastern Turkey.




    The battle was preceded by the complete destruction of Armenian town Arzen or Artze, a vibrant commercial center in the Byzantine-administered thema of Iberia (near the modern-day Erzerum, Turkey), by the Seljuq forces. A combined Byzantine-Georgian army of 50,000, under the command of Aaron, Katakalon Kekaumenos and Liparit, met the Seljuqs head-on at Kapetrou (modern-day Pasinler, Erzurum).

    In a fierce nocturnal battle, the Christian allies managed to repel the Turks, and Aaron and Kekaumenos, in command of the two flanks, pursued the Turks "till cock's crow". In the centre, however, Yinal managed to capture the Georgian prince Liparit, a fact of which the two Byzantine commanders were not informed until after they gave thanks to God for their victory.

    Ibrahim Yinal was nevertheless able to safely leave the Byzantine territory, laden with spoils and captives. The emperor later sent ransoms to Toğrül who refused them, however, and released Liparit on condition that he would never again fight the Seljuqs.

    The devastation left behind by the Seljuq raid was so fearful that the Byzantine magnate Eustathios Boilas described, in 1051/52, those lands as "foul and unmanageable... inhabited by snakes, scorpions, and wild beasts." The Arab chronicler Ibn al-Athir reports that Ibrahim brought back 100,000 captives and a vast booty loaded on the backs of ten thousand camels.
    Commanders of the Seljuks here were princely, from the imperial house. Both Ibrahim Yınal and Kutalmış grandsons of Seljuk himself.
    Kutalmish was the grandfather of Kilij Arslan, first sultan of Seljuks of Rum.

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    Artukid Ilghazi (Turcoman prince) vs Antiochenese Normans in Ager Sanguinis battle.


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    12th and 13th century architectural and ceramic arts of the Seljuks of Rum.
    Their capital Konya (modern day Central Turkey).
    Turquoise colour can be noticed extensively.



    Medieval French naming colour Turquoise (greenish blue) after Turks is most likely from that era and after seeing these arts.
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ational-Colour
    That colour was unkown to most Westerners back then.

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