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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Yes, they were mainly Cro-Magnid but it's shown in genetic studies that they already had genes for blue eyes and blond hair before the Indo-European arrival. The further North you go more light pigmented individuals you will encounter and it's not because they are more Indo-European influenced, it's just climatic adaptation and natural selection. Actually, the Scandinavians and other Northern Europeans are one of the least Indo-European people in Europe: the Germanic languages, for example, are very influenced by the Paleo-European languages that existed in Europe before the PIE invasion and the Germanic people in general have a great amount of Mesolithic paternal lineages.
    Source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    Is there actually evidence of this? Also, why couldn't the dolichocephalisation have been from the Corded people rather than Hallstatt?
    I think that Coon saw in Unetice and Halstatt more moderate Head sizes than In Cordeds. That's why he theorized a reduction of the Corded type with a more Mesocephalic Mediterranean type (which he individuated in the Danubians)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Columella View Post
    I think that Coon saw in Unetice and Halstatt more moderate Head sizes than In Cordeds. That's why he theorized a reduction of the Corded type with a more Mesocephalic Mediterranean type (which he individuated in the Danubians)


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    And what of the Beaker influence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columella View Post
    I think that Coon saw in Unetice and Halstatt more moderate Head sizes than In Cordeds. That's why he theorized a reduction of the Corded type with a more Mesocephalic Mediterranean type (which he individuated in the Danubians)


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    Do you know also why he named it Hallstatt Nordid as opposed to Unetice Nordid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    Do you know also why he named it Hallstatt Nordid as opposed to Unetice Nordid?
    I guess for Coon Halstatt is a development of Unetice/Aunjetiz
    (Talking about cultures not phenotypes)
    This culture arose in central Europe, with southern Germany and Austria as a focus, sometime shortly after the beginning of the first millennium B.C. It developed out of local Bronze Age origins carried over from the Urnfiels, and in turn from Aunjetitz. Other Middle and Late Bronze Age influences reached it, particularly that of the tumulus culture of the south German highlands;
    As the Bronze Age, I guess that Coon attributed it to a Brachycefalic minority in Iron Age cranica series.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Columella View Post
    I guess for Coon Halstatt is a development of Unetice/Aunjetiz
    (Talking about cultures not phenotypes)


    As the Bronze Age, I guess that Coon attributed it to a Brachycefalic minority in Iron Age cranica series.


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    What does that mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columella View Post
    I guess for Coon Halstatt is a development of Unetice/Aunjetiz
    (Talking about cultures not phenotypes)


    As the Bronze Age, I guess that Coon attributed it to a Brachycefalic minority in Iron Age cranica series.


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    I still don't understand how the Hallstatt type could have come from the Hallstatt culture to Scandinavia - the Unetice culture, which is basically a precursor to Hallstatt, is pred. R1b - which would suggest a lot of rufosity.

    This is clearly absent from the Scandinavian Hallstatt type.

    Also, before the Iron Age, was Scandinavia really brachy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    I still don't understand how the Hallstatt type could have come from the Hallstatt culture to Scandinavia - the Unetice culture, which is basically a precursor to Hallstatt, is pred. R1b - which would suggest a lot of rufosity.

    This is clearly absent from the Scandinavian Hallstatt type.

    Also, before the Iron Age, was Scandinavia really brachy?
    I have a theory on how it got to Scandinavia, but I am still researching lots into this.

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