Everything about Wilders.

[Cato]

I've just read online that he's married to a Jewess from Eastern Europe. Any truth to it?

[Liffrea]

Originally Posted by Lenny
Would it change anything?

Making the assumption that he is a nationalist in the true sense of the word and not just a safety valve or a man on the make……not much at all. No offence but the Netherlands is a small country, if it acts to set the ball rolling in larger countries like Germany, France, UK etc then all to the good, but unless we see consistent and sustained nationalist movements across Europe I don’t think it will be much more than a flash in the pan.

Ask yourself how far would the people who really run affairs not just in Europe but across much of the Western world really tolerate Wilders? There are people with a lot to lose…..

[Anthropos]

Partij voor de vrijhed (The Freedom Party) is a typical Liberal or Neoliberal party, in my opinion, and it is very closely related to Neoconservativism as well. What makes it more of a Neoliberal party is e.g. that it embraces some ultra-Liberal tendencies of Western culture whereas Neoconservatism plays more on a variant of conventional 'values'. Something they have in common is a completely fake appeal to Christianity which is only used as an identity-forming factor. In reality, Neocons, Liberals and anti-Islamization crooks alike are doing their best to drag Christianity in the mud, just like some Nationalists also do. They don't care about Europe and her virtues nor about the people but only about profit.

[Agrippa]

Making the assumption that he is a nationalist in the true sense of the word and not just a safety valve or a man on the make……not much at all. No offence but the Netherlands is a small country, if it acts to set the ball rolling in larger countries like Germany, France, UK etc then all to the good, but unless we see consistent and sustained nationalist movements across Europe I don’t think it will be much more than a flash in the pan.

Ask yourself how far would the people who really run affairs not just in Europe but across much of the Western world really tolerate Wilders? There are people with a lot to lose…..

On the other hand, risk has to be taken, the time gets lost, we lose demography, we lose our freedoms, we are just forced to act now.

Even a small country might be the spark which changes everything, because once things got out of political control by the plutocrats, they might take more desperate measures, of which we might say they will alienate the people in many countries - hopefully.

That way they have to prevent that possibility from happening at all, with strawmen and puppets to get the votes of those which have enough, but dont know better.

Obviously, of all the parties in Europe, which are rightwing populists or real nationalist, social revolutionaries or something similar, this party in the Netherlands is one of the most tame, the most toothless thing and most adapted to the Liberalcapitalist structures themselves - from what I know, I'm open to other news...

[Groenewolf]

I've just read online that he's married to a Jewess from Eastern Europe. Any truth to it?

Yes, his ex-wive is also a Jew. He did vacation work in Israel and if I have to believe it he descends from a prominent Indonesian Jewish family.

[Cato]

Yes, his ex-wive is also a Jew. He did vacation work in Israel and if I have to believe it he descends from a prominent Indonesian Jewish family.

Thanks for that interesting bit of info.

[SwordoftheVistula]

Most likely he's just doing this to avoid the 'nazi' label and thus appear more mainstream, in order to be able to actually have a chance at having a positive effect unlike the hardcore neo-nazi parties like the NPD and DVU in Germany or the pre-Griffin BNP in the UK which have a difficult time gaining much traction due to the 'nazi' label.

a completely fake appeal to Christianity which is only used as an identity-forming factor

Umm...what other uses would Christianity have Positive ones that is, not all the negative influences and effects which have been discussed on this forum in numerous places.

[Anthropos]

Most likely he's just doing this to avoid the 'nazi' label and thus appear more mainstream, in order to be able to actually have a chance at having a positive effect unlike the hardcore neo-nazi parties like the NPD and DVU in Germany or the pre-Griffin BNP in the UK which have a difficult time gaining much traction due to the 'nazi' label.

It it's not that superficial. You can always take a look at what they want to do, then compare it to those parties you mentioned, and conclude that they have completely different objectives.


Concerning your question about Christianity:

Umm...what other uses would Christianity have Positive ones that is, not all the negative influences and effects which have been discussed on this forum in numerous places.

Political parties should not abuse Christianity and take her name in vain, that's it. Partij voor de vrijhed is not Christian in the least. On the contrary, it's a secularistic party, really.

Besides that, Christianity must NEVER be some errand boy for politicians. Under the right circumstances, Christianity could really revive (the nations of) Europe, but that is not going to happen as a result of strictly political efforts.

[Lenny]

he descends from a prominent Indonesian Jewish family.

That sounds like a joke

Could it possibly be?


Whatever his background is (wife, ancestry, blah blah blah) -- We were able to see his ideology as clear as day in that short film he made called "Fitna". It was the most Zionist-neoconservative screed I've ever seen which did not come from the USA...

The message of that movie was "Islamism threatens our beloved Capitalist-liberal-democracy, so let's fight them. We must defend our Great Ideology of C.L.D. from these new 'Nazis'. But we absolutely must also defend Israel on hardline-nationalist/voelkisch terms."

[SwordoftheVistula]

The main goal to unite all nationalists should be to stop the influx of foreigners. Then, after that, you can set up a nazi or christian fundamentalist regime or whatever your pet cause is. The fact is, neither will be possible if any European country gets a large muslim population, and the only way to stop this from happening it is for someone to gain power to prevent it from happening.