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    This data suggests that the fate of E-V13 was linked to the elite dominance of Bronze Age society

    For many years the vast majority of academics have assumed that E-V13 and other E1b1b lineages came to the Balkans from the southern Levant via Anatolia during the Neolithic, and that the high frequency of E-V13 was caused by a founder effect among the colonisers. This theory has it that E1b1b people were associated with the development of Neolithic lifestyle and the advent of agriculture in the Fertile Crescent and its earliest diffusion to Southeast Europe (Thessalian Neolithic) and Mediterranean Europe (Cardium Pottery culture). The testing of ancient DNA from the Natufian culture (Mesolithic Levant) and Pre-Pottery Neolithic Levant confirmed a high incidence of haplogroup E1b1b in that region. However, out of 69 Y-DNA samples tested from Neolithic Europe, only two belonged to that haplogroup: one E-M78 from the Sopot culture in Hungary (5000-4800 BCE) and another E-M78 (c. 5000 BCE), possibly E-V13, from north-east Spain. Whether these E-M78 samples came with Neolithic farmers from the Near East or were already present among Mesolithic Europeans is unclear at present. But in any case E-V13 was definitely not the major Neolithic European lineage it was once alleged to be.

    Nowadays E-V13 is the only Mediterranean haplogroup consistently found throughout Europe, even in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Baltic countries, which are conspicuous by the absence of other Neolithic haplogroups like G2a (bar the Indo-European G2a-Z1815), J1 and T (except in Estonia). However, since G2a is the only lineage that was consistently found in all Neolithic sites tested to date in Europe, the absence of Neolithic G2a lineages from Scandinavia and the Baltic implies that no Neolithic lineage survives there, and consequently E-V13 does not date from the Neolithic in the region.

    In fact, it has been calculated that E-V13 emerged from E-M78 some 7,800 years ago, when Neolithic farmers were advancing into the Balkans and the Danubian basin. Furthermore, all the modern members of E-V13 descend from a common ancestor who lived approximately 5,500 years ago, and all of them also descend from a later common ancestor who carried the CTS5856 mutation. That ancestor would have lived about 4,100 years ago, during the Bronze Age. Almost immediately afterwards, CTS5856 split into six subclades, then branched off into even more subclades in the space of a few generations. In just a few centuries, that very minor E-V13 lineage had started an expansion process that would turn it into one of Europe's most widespread paternal lineages and reach far beyond the borders of Europe itself, also spreading to the eastern edge of the Mediterranean, the Caucasus, Kurdistan, Iran, and even Siberia.

    This data suggests that the fate of E-V13 was linked to the elite dominance of Bronze Age society. The geographic distribution of the six main branches show that E-V13 quickly spread to all parts of Europe, but was especially common in Central Europe. The only Bronze Age migration that could account for such a fast and far-reaching dispersal is that of the Proto-Indo-Europeans. At present the most consistent explanation is that E-V13 developed from E-M78 in Central or Eastern Europe during the Neolithic period, and was assimilated by the R1a and R1b Proto-Indo-Europeans around the time that they were leaving the Pontic Steppe to invade the rest of Europe.

    What is surprising with E-V13 is that it is as common in R1a-dominant as in R1b-dominant countries. R1a Indo-European tribes are associated with the Corded Ware culture, which spanned across Northeast Europe, Scandinavia and the northern half of Central Europe. R1b tribes invaded the Balkans, the southern half of Central Europe, and joined up with Corded Ware people in what is now Germany, the Czech Republic and western Poland. If E-V13 was found among both groups, it would have needed to be either assimilated in the Pontic Steppe or very near from it (say, in the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture, around western Ukraine, Moldova and Romania), or at the junction between the two groups in central Europe (e.g. around the Czech Republic).

    The eastern advance of the Corded Ware culture eventually gave rise to the Sintashta culture in the Ural region, which is the ancestral culture of the Indo-Iranian branch of Indo-Europeans. E-V13's presence in this culture would explain why modern Iranians and Kurds possess E-V13, in addition to R1a-Z93 and R1b-Z2103. E-V13 has been found as far away as central Siberia, near the Altai, a region also known to have been settled by Bronze Age Indo-Europeans.


    http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplog...1b_Y-DNA.shtml

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    I don't know my haplogroup, but I hope I'm E v13

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeWorshiper View Post
    I don't know my haplogroup, but I hope I'm E v13
    I will pray for you

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    V13 is truly a mystery, it expanded to all Europe, It seems logical that V13s were assimilated into the R1 horde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeWorshiper View Post
    I don't know my haplogroup, but I hope I'm E v13
    hey nice tell me whats your paternal origins? Iberian?
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    When I die I hope I am reincarnated into someone that is ev13

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    We are numerous, powerful....and we like Bronze!

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    Sorry, but that goes to J2 Bronze Age elite: J2b2 & J2a1. Proto-Albanian & Proto-Greek haplogroups respectively according to results that have been shown.

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    The article is clearly written by an E1b1b-infected person.

    E-V13 is a well known neolithic haplogroup, its ancestor came from South Levant and formed the bulk of the Neolithic Farmer lineages in Southeast Europe. To associate it with steppe expansions is nothing but wishful thinking.

    I don't know why this "steppe" fetish became so popular recently but everyone wants to be associated with steppe it seems, even a well known neolithic haplogroup (E1b1b) is getting associated by some E1b1b guy on Eupedia.

    Yeah, such a "steppe" haplogroup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PentaDrägon View Post
    hey nice tell me whats your paternal origins? Iberian?
    yeah, Portuguese and Catalan(Balearic Islands > Menorca)

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