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    Quote Originally Posted by gültekin View Post
    Well said professor
    Get the fuck out of here

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCree900 View Post
    And they were Greeks who in turn are Indo-Europeans themselves.
    They were europeans, not indoeuropeans.

    Indoeuropeans are people came from Afganistan,Kyrgystan and north India and today settle in north east europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    They were europeans, not indoeuropeans.

    Indoeuropeans are people came from Afganistan,Kyrgystan and north India and today settle in north east europe
    Dude, it's the other way around. Indo-Europeans came from North-Eastern Europe, and Greeks themselves are Indo-Europeans regardless on the fact that they don't have much steppe ancestry themselves, and they're mostly derived from pre-indo-European native peoples of South-Eastern Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCree900 View Post
    Dude, it's the other way around. Indo-Europeans came from North-Eastern Europe, and Greeks themselves are Indo-Europeans regardless on the fact that they don't have much steppe ancestry themselves, and they're mostly derived from pre-indo-European native peoples of South-Eastern Europe.
    How do you know that??
    The most R1a exist in Afganistan Pashtuns ,Pakistan and North India

    Indoeuropeans are not native to Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    How do you know that??
    The most R1a exist in Afganistan Pashtuns ,Pakistan and North India

    Indoeuropeans are not native to Europe
    Yea but all those groups have steppe-admix

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    Yea but all those groups have steppe-admix
    They have not steppe admix, they are 100% middle east

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    I dont understand the point of this thread. Indo-European is a linguistic category, which Greek falls under. The Mycenaeans were the first inhabitants in Greece to speak the Greek language, making them Indo-Europeans. We dont know what language the Minoans spoke, but it seems plausible that it was a linguistic isolate, similar to Basque today. The two groups however, despite their linguistic differences, are similar in genetic composition, the difference being higher amounts of steppe ancestry in the Mycenaeans.

    There really isn't much more to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcelow View Post
    I dont understand the point of this thread. Indo-European is a linguistic category, which Greek falls under. The Mycenaeans were the first inhabitants in Greece to speak the Greek language, making them Indo-Europeans. We dont know what language the Minoans spoke, but it seems plausible that it was a linguistic isolate, similar to Basque today. The two groups however, despite their linguistic differences, are similar in genetic composition, the difference being higher amounts of steppe ancestry in the Mycenaeans.

    There really isn't much more to it.
    It's interesting, how long some people going to keep believing in absolutely groundless "steppe urheimat" indo-European theory?

    I guess this phenomenon or form of mass insanity directly has to do with aggressive unalternative points of view which have been imposed with very obsessive style, like Eupedia did it for example.
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    myceneans were indo european
    they had significant steppe admixture

    Mycenaean
    Minoan_Lasithi 0.786±0.049
    Sintashta 0.214±0.049
    P-value 0.96574059
    chisq 6.030
    Full output

    Mycenaean
    Corded_Ware_Germany 0.210±0.043
    Minoan_Lasithi 0.790±0.043
    P-value 0.961238695
    chisq 6.198
    Full output

    Mycenaean
    Minoan_Lasithi 0.791±0.043
    Srubnaya 0.209±0.043
    P-value 0.950419642
    chisq 6.558
    Full output


    http://eurogenes.blogspot.co.il/2017...ycenaeans.html

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