Should Russia return Kuril Islands back to Japan?

[Loki]

On the other hand.. Finland used to be part of the Russian Empire. Finland as a nation state got its independence first from Russia, if I understand it correctly?

[Porn Master]

Alaska was also Russian. Karelia was Finland like German Koningsberg(Kaliningrad) now is in Russia

[Böri]

On the other hand.. Finland used to be part of the Russian Empire. Finland as a nation state got its independence first from Russia, if I understand it correctly?

When it was under Russian empire, the educated and elites of them entered under German influence and that helped them break off from Russia following a civil war. Communist Finns wanted to remain part of USSR and White Finns wanted to win independence. White Finns defeated Red Finns in 1918 civil war with substantial German help and even German-trained Finnish troops. Their Protestant and Western identity played obviously.

[Finnish Swede]

On the other hand.. Finland used to be part of the Russian Empire. Finland as a nation state got its independence first from Russia, if I understand it correctly?

Yup. Autonomous part of Russia about 100years (keeping Sweden's time laws, keeping Lutheran church, no bodmen like in Russia, keeping Finnish and Swedish languages. etc,). And before that era part of Sweden 700years.

For me it doen't matter who gave the independency. Viipuri was Finnish people city all the time until 1944. It was 2. biggest city in Finland (late 1930's) and culturelly the most important.

[Loki]

Yup. Autonomous part of Russia about 100years (keeping Sweden's time laws, keeping Lutheran church, no bodmen like in Russia, keeping Finnish and Swedish languages. etc,). And before that era part of Sweden 700years.

For me it doen't matter who gave the independency. Viipuri was Finnish people city all the time until 1944. It was 2. biggest city in Finland (late 1930's) and culturelly the most important.

It doesn't look like Finns and Russians have many problems these days. The Finns are not so paranoid as the Poles and Estonians. And Swedes, for that matter (Swedes because they're America's cucks).

[Loki]

For me it doen't matter who gave the independency.

Independence was not an important event for you?

[Сербо Макеридов]

No.

[Finnish Swede]

It doesn't look like Finns and Russians have many problems these days. The Finns are not so paranoid as the Poles and Estonians. And Swedes, for that matter (Swedes because they're America's cucks).

Yup. Mental issue. Finns have always tried to live in peace. Same fits today. Neighbours just have not always allowed that luxury.
Tsar Nikolai II had once said that Finland is the least problematic area in whole Russia. He was quite right...we know what happened.

[Finnish Swede]

Independence was not an important event for you?

Of course it was (and still is). Actually on December Finland will become 100years old . Finland's President have met Putin every year face to face (no matter the official EU policy). This year already twice. And Putin congratulated 100years old Finland at June as visitng here. Well, nobody knows what he or Russians really thinks (Finns knows that better than any). But again Finland hardly is the most problematic country by the eyes of Russians. Not even that Finland- Russia (land)border is the longest one Russians have with any European country.

Yup. Indepence era finally allowed Finns to show what kind of people they really are and what they are capable to do vs other nations. Before that all possible credits (what they did) went to Russians or especially for Swedes.

Keep it still in mind: Russians did't offer Indepence to Finns. Of course not. Finns were themselves active (bit same ways as Baltics late 1990s)...and ''pressured'' it from Russians. Then Bolseviks were planning and starting to take the power, I bet Finland was one of the least issue in their heads.

Anyway; that all won't change the fact what happened 1939 - 1944. Wars between Sovjet and Finland? Stalin & Sovjets/Russians were the bad guys. They were winners side in the end? Yes. But that won't change it.

[Peterski]

Yup. Autonomous part of Russia about 100years (keeping Sweden's time laws, keeping Lutheran church, no bodmen like in Russia, keeping Finnish and Swedish languages. etc,). And before that era part of Sweden 700years.

For me it doen't matter who gave the independency. Viipuri was Finnish people city all the time until 1944. It was 2. biggest city in Finland (late 1930's) and culturelly the most important.

It doesn't look like Finns and Russians have many problems these days. The Finns are not so paranoid as the Poles and Estonians. And Swedes, for that matter (Swedes because they're America's cucks).

I don't think that the Poles are paranoid about Russia.

But Stalin took away Lwów from Poland - and Lwów was even more important for us than Viipuri for the Finns. It was the 3rd largest city of pre-war Poland, culturally the 2nd most important one (after Warsaw), and the main city of Southern Poland (Cracow was only 2nd). Ethnically it was a Polish city with a Jewish minority, and it was supposed to stay with Poland even based on the original Curzon Line.

And Lwów is only ~70 km from the modern border of Poland.

Getting Szczecin (I think that's what Poland got "extra", because Szczecin is located mostly to the west of the Oder River - so it should have stayed with Germany even with those border changes) did not compensate the loss of Lwów, for many reasons.