Bulgaria first Balkan state in history?

[Böri]

The history of Croatian state starts in 845 obviously.



Bulgaria was almost an empire covering almost up until Pelopponese back then.
The level the steppe Bulgars had truly was incredible when you compared to Balkan natives and Slavs. Just some tens of thousands people show up and cross the Danube and rule all the way for how many centuries

[Archduke]

Haaahhaaaa, what a bulshit.

Serbia is first state in the Balkans and one of the first states in Europe serbijana.weebly.com/uploads/2/2/5/3/22534738/6720890_orig.jpg

Serbia was always under the shadow of Bulgaria during Middle ages

[Linebacker]

Our neightbours are very butthurt and saddlesore that they have been under our shadow since 681.

But I sense a strong sentiment of Turkicism in the post.Bulgarian empire was never going to be possible without the Slavic soldiers,who were the main fighting force in our armies at the time.

Bulgars ruled,Slavs fought,the Thracian Greeks farmed.

[Stears]

Haaahhaaaa, what a bulshit.

Serbia is first state in the Balkans and one of the first states in Europe serbijana.weebly.com/uploads/2/2/5/3/22534738/6720890_orig.jpg

Territory of later Serbia was a dispute among Bulgarian Empire and Byzantine Empire. The independent medieval Serbian state was not formed until the late 12th century, and it lasted only for 150 years (Battle of Kosovo).

[Сербо Макеридов]

Territory of later Serbia was a dispute among Bulgarian Empire and Byzantine Empire. The independent medieval Serbian state was not formed until the late 12th century, and it lasted only for 150 years (Battle of Kosovo).

You are obviosly escaping from the class of mathematics, Battle of Kosovo was 1389, from late 12th century to 1389 is 200 years and not 150.

But Serbian state were not created in the late 12th century, Serbian state was created much much earlier.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Territory of later Serbia was a dispute among Bulgarian Empire and Byzantine Empire. The independent medieval Serbian state was not formed until the late 12th century, and it lasted only for 150 years (Battle of Kosovo).

More then 150. There was Dušan's Empire.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Territory of later Serbia was a dispute among Bulgarian Empire and Byzantine Empire. The independent medieval Serbian state was not formed until the late 12th century, and it lasted only for 150 years (Battle of Kosovo).

More then 150. There was Dušan's Empire.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Serbian Empire under tsar Dušan

[Stears]

More then 150. There was Dušan's Empire.

Dusan's Empire ))))))))))) It was everything but not serious Empire. IT was established in extrem rarely populated mountain areas , which were not really developed parts of Europe, with extreeme little population, and most of his subject were shepherds, because agricultural lifestyle existed in the era, but it was not dominant.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Greeks/Byzantium isn't Balkan.

Here Balkan countries (colored ones):


Greeks are more Mediterranean / South Euro than Balkan. Balkan is Serb, Bosnian, Bulgarian etc.

Geographically Greece is part of the Balkan Peninsula, it ends on the Danube, but are other implications and therefore several definitions for Balkan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkans