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Olè -the typical spanish exclamation- is a word of Arab Origin
Olè -the typical spanish exclamation- is a word of Arab Origin
it comes from an Arabic invocation of Allah, or the oath والله (w-állah, “by Allah!”)
Is that true?
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nobody says Wallahi more than Somalis today
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Spain has loads of it; I think at lead 30% of their vocabulary sounds to me non-romanceOriginally Posted by Wadaad
We have some Arab words also in Italian but less than in the spanish language.
Such as Zucchero, algebra, tariffa etc
Also some toponims in sicily
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Wa-Allah according to a Spanish site an the wikidictionary it s even more present in this spanish expression
OJALA
From Old Spanish oxalá, from Arabic وشاء اللّٰه (wa-šā’ allāh) ("and may God will it"). Compare English inshallah, Portuguese oxalá, Maltese jalla.
Inshallah is the common word used in on temporary European journalism chronicles to speak about one of the Muslim concepts; and I know Yalla too that is used as an invcitation n by Moroccan workers I ve worked with
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Also, Spanish seem to have alot of 'classic Arabic' words. Portugal is named after Arabic citrus (Oranges)
And the name "Omar" is very common with Hispanics.
While Italy seems to have borrowed "Tunisian slang" or something...not classic Arabic, but more like the ancestor of the Modern Maltese.
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Sorry to disappoint you but Olé is derivative from the Greek work ololyzein (ὀλολύζειν), which is an onomatopoeic word and designates the ritual cry of mourning jubilation, to cry aloud, ululate or scare away bad influences.
Many etymologists consider it impossible for the word to come from Allah (Allah) because it is pronounced with a double-velarized that prevents the -á final pronounced-is, and because there is no explanation then for the initial o-. They prefer to consider it "voice of expressive origin, as it does, hala, hola, etc.
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"The word Portugal derives from the Roman-Celtic place name Portus Cale. Cale or Cailleah was the name of a Celtic deity and also the name of an early settlement located at the mouth of the Douro River (present-day Vila Nova de Gaia), which flows into the Atlantic Ocean in the north of what is now Portugal. Around 200 BC, the Romans took the Iberian Peninsula from the Carthaginians during the Second Punic War, and in the process conquered Cale and renamed it Portus Cale (Port of Cale). During the Middle Ages, the region around Portus Cale became known by the Suebi and Visigoths as Portucale.
The name Portucale evolved into Portugale during the 7th and 8th centuries, and by the 9th century, that term was used extensively to refer to the region between the rivers Douro and Minho, the Minho flowing along what would become the northern Portugal-Spain border. By the 11th and 12th centuries, Portugale was already referred to as Portugal.
The precise etymology of the name Cale is somewhat mysterious, although the most plausible origin points to Cale being a Celtic name, like many others found in the region. Indeed, the word cale or cala meant "port", an "inlet" or "harbour", and implied the existence of an older Celtic harbour. Furthermore, today's Gaelic word for harbour is indeed "Cala". Some argue it is the stem of Gallaecia, again of Celtic derivation. Another theory claims it derives from the word Caladunum.
In any case, the particle Portu in the word Portucale was used as the basis of Porto, the modern name for the city located on the site of the ancient city of Cale at the mouth of the Douro River. And port became the English name of the wine actually produced further inland, in the Upper Douro Valley region, but exported through Porto. The name Cale is today reflected in Gaia (Vila Nova de Gaia), a city on the left bank of the river."
Puto mono de mierda, try being a better troll next time.
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Unimaginative and easily debunked trolling.
Portugal derives from Portus Cale.
Oranges were already introduced in Europe and North Africa by the Romans.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portus_Cale
Portus Cale (Latinised version for "Port of Cale", original Celtic name Callaici, Cale) was an ancient town and port in current-day northern Portugal, in the area of today's Grande Porto. The name of the town eventually influenced the name of the subsequent country Portugal.
The mainstream explanation for the name is that it is an ethnonym derived from the Castro people, also known as the Callaeci, Gallaeci or Gallaecia, a people who occupied the north-west of the Iberian Peninsula. The names Callaici and Cale are the origin of today's Gaia, Galicia, and the -gal in Portugal. The meaning of Cale or Calle is very likely a derivation of the Celtic word for port which would confirm very old links to pre-Roman, Celtic languages. Compare today's Irish caladh or Scottish cala, both meaning port.
The medieval Scottish historian Hector Boece thought the name Portugal was derived from Porto Gatelli, the name Gatelo gave to Braga when he settled there,[1] while others say he gave it to Porto.[2][3]
Other historians have argued that Greeks were the first to settle Cale and that the name derives from the Greek word Καλλις kallis, 'beautiful', referring to the beauty of the Douro valley. Others have hypothesized that the word Cale came from the Latin word for 'warm' (Portus Cale thus meaning 'warm port').
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Troll? This is common knowledge...your etymological explanations sound mythical and are mostly conjecture.
And the only puto mono de mierda is you...your insecurity reeks. You have long surpassed Cristiano Viejo as the most insecure Iberian on TA. (beside you two, most other Iberians are actually cool and secure in their history)
The Arabic word for the fruit "orange" is برتقال (burtuqaal [remember there is no "p" in Arabic, and it usually becomes a "b" when we borrow foreign words]).
The Arabic word for "Portugal" is البرتغال (al-burtughaal).
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^ I think they associate the Orange with Portugal because of the maritime power and commerce it had in the past.
Portogal thought in it s even ancient origin is not Arab name
I know that in some south Italian dialects they call oranges as portocale
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