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    Default Quantum science says you ALWAYS have existed and ALWAYS will exist

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/scienc...quantum-theory

    YOU and your consciousness existed before you were even BORN, according to a well respected doctor who specialises in biological and medical chemistry.


    Consciousness comes from the universe, according to some theorists

    Scientists are still baffled by consciousness and questions about why we have it and how we have it constantly arising remain unanswered.

    One theory is that consciousness is created on a quantum, sub-atomic scale through energy which is constantly contained in the universe.

    The theory is based on Einstein’s famous quote, when he said: “Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.”

    Dr David Hamilton said all consciousness is and always has been in the universe through quantum particles, and when you are born, it is channelled into a physical being.


    “I believe that each of us exists before we are born on earth.”

    Writing for website Heal Your Life, Dr Hamilton said: “I believe that each of us exists before we are born on earth.”

    He added: “Each of us is pure consciousness, currently focused in a physical dimension.

    “Science would typically say that life is random, ultimately stemming from the random birth of subatomic particles, but I don’t quite agree with that.


    Life could continue after death

    “Mainstream science says that consciousness must be a side-effect of brain chemistry.

    “But I believe that the brain merely affects consciousness, much in the same way that the quality of wiring in a TV affects the signal processing and thus the quality of picture you get.

    “The TV does not create the program, and nor does the brain create consciousness.


    Consciousness 'continues to exist in a parallel universe'

    “Consciousness is something fundamental to nature - it is stitched into the very fabric of reality.”

    Consciousness transcends time and space, he said.

    He added: “If you start with the assumption that you exist as pure consciousness, then you must have existed before you were born.

    “Really, you are everywhere and everywhere!”

    Dr Robert Lanza shares a similar theory.

    He believes our minds exist through energy which is contained in our bodies and is released once our physical beings cease in a process he calls ‘biocentrism’.

    As such, when our physical bodies die, the energy of our consciousness could continue on a quantum level.

    Dr Lanza says that “there are an infinite number of universes, and everything that could possibly happen occurs in some universe”.

    As a result, he theorises that the consciousness continues to exist in a parallel universe.

    Dr Lanza points to the uncertainty principle – a 1927 theory from German physicist Werner Heisenberg which says that the velocity and position of an object can be measured at the same time.

    The scientist stated in an article he penned for Huffington Post: “Consider the uncertainty principle, one of the most famous and important aspects of quantum mechanics. Experiments confirm it’s built into the fabric of reality, but it only makes sense from a biocentric perspective.”

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    Although its possible I'm not so sure about the longevity of our consciousness.
    But yes, in terms of our existence on the subatomic level we have 'existed' and will continue to do so for a long, long time. From the stars we came and to the stars we shall return. We are all recycled stardust, the stuff of stars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Although its possible I'm not so sure about the longevity of our consciousness.
    But yes, in terms of our existence on the subatomic level we have 'existed' and will continue to do so for a long, long time. From the stars we came and to the stars we shall return. We are all recycled stardust, the stuff of stars.
    Robert Lanza is credited with the theory which is called Biocentrism I believe. He tries to prove that the underlying nature of consciousness is eternal..
    The Science Behind Infinite Consciousness – We Never Truly Die
    There's a book that's making waves among metaphysical and scientific communities called Biocentrism: How Life And Consciousness Are The Keys To Understanding The True Nature Of The Universe. In it, a scientist the New York Times called the third most important in the world, Dr. Robert Lanza levels the claim that life doesn't end when the body dies, but instead is completely eternal.

    Lanza believes that it's possible that intelligence actually existed before matter did, suggesting intelligence as a sort of pervasive, unending thing. He also makes the claim that space and time are not objects but tools of our understanding. Space and time are carried within us, meaning we exist outside of it.

    So then if the body creates awareness, the awareness dies when the body does. That's simple. But if consciousness is simply received by the body from outside of it, then it won't really matter if the receiver dies, the signal is still there.

    Lanza believes that it's possible there are multiple universes in which consciousness can move. In one universe, the body is dead. In another, it's alive. That means the universe in which the body is alive received the consciousness from the universe in which the body is dead. So we don't go to haven or hell.

    There are many different universes where the soul can move after death, at least according to the theory of neo-biocentrism. There is little evidence to prove these theories. Some point to near-death experiences as proof that consciousness does leave the body. But it's hard to know for sure.
    http://www.higherperspectives.com/th...429975850.html

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    This is fascinating, thanks for posting it. I've watched a few videos about quantum physics, and about to watch a few regarding consciousness. This is something I've been thinking about a lot recently.

    An easier way to understand these things is to smoke pot. Seriously.
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    The Science Behind Infinite Consciousness – We Never Truly Die
    There's a book that's making waves among metaphysical and scientific communities called Biocentrism: How Life And Consciousness Are The Keys To Understanding The True Nature Of The Universe. In it, a scientist the New York Times called the third most important in the world, Dr. Robert Lanza levels the claim that life doesn't end when the body dies, but instead is completely eternal.

    Lanza believes that it's possible that intelligence actually existed before matter did, suggesting intelligence as a sort of pervasive, unending thing. He also makes the claim that space and time are not objects but tools of our understanding. Space and time are carried within us, meaning we exist outside of it.

    So then if the body creates awareness, the awareness dies when the body does. That's simple. But if consciousness is simply received by the body from outside of it, then it won't really matter if the receiver dies, the signal is still there.

    Lanza believes that it's possible there are multiple universes in which consciousness can move. In one universe, the body is dead. In another, it's alive. That means the universe in which the body is alive received the consciousness from the universe in which the body is dead. So we don't go to haven or hell.

    There are many different universes where the soul can move after death, at least according to the theory of neo-biocentrism. There is little evidence to prove these theories. Some point to near-death experiences as proof that consciousness does leave the body. But it's hard to know for sure.
    Know what is ironic? That I have theorized this a few days ago myself, also. So I guess there must be the substance of logic to it.
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    Sounds like a charming, elementary explanation of predestination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Know what is ironic? That I have theorized this a few days ago myself, also. So I guess there must be the substance of logic to it.
    Nope, your theory ALWAYS existed.
    Hehe

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    How are they defining consciousness if it is eternal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Know what is ironic? That I have theorized this a few days ago myself, also. So I guess there must be the substance of logic to it.
    I tend to favor this Biocentrism theory over the Simulation Hypothesis theory.

    Simulation theory makes the unproven assumption that consciousness can be simulated with a computer/machine. But IMO I tend to believe more in Biocentrism and the infinite nature of the self.

    Lol yeah smoking pot probably helps a lot. In my case as a non-smoker I tend to indulge myself on heavily carbonated beverages instead lol.

    Yeah I think even most people in certain ways have thought or theorized of this idea themselves being that one can only ascertain their own personal/subjective thoughts; anything outside of our own mind is beyond our experience or knowledge/understanding. Essentially, speaking of the nature of simple experience itself...we only have our own perspective we can truly know or trust.

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