Christianity, a foreign European religion and culture.

[Lucia]

Well I assure you, until Christians had a "Christian States" head chopping was a common thing. Head Chopping was a common thing up to 1890 A.D.

Modern "Evolved" states have basically abandoned religions yet they have decided to attack all other religions who do not follow their ATHEISM.

Basically, being religious = enemy of the USA, EU etc..

I do not find myself into that Atheistic world. We still believe in God which is why many lies have been spread by media against muslims etc....

Well the Vatican is a theocracy yet they are strongly against death punishment. By that I meant the pope and the Catholic Church. I don't think they are atheists, they have just evolved.

[Bosniensis]

How Russians got Christianized

This is not a debate about which religion is better, but rather about the insults "Muslims are destroying Balkans with their foreign culture".

I was just giving a remark that Christianity came to Europe from a man who was A JEW (SEMITE JEW), and that We who converted to Islam basically did the same
thing as Christians who converted from Roman Religion.

I will not discuss (anymore) about which religion is better. I am just saying that Christians are not those who are defending "European Culture".

[Vojnik]

The difference is Christianity entered Europe through the apostle Paul who traveled to Macedonia after seeing a vision to do so. It was organically installed into Europe and played a huge role in European society, art, culture. Europe's entire fabric is Intertwined around Christianity.

Islam on the other hand is absolutely foreign. It came in the form of murder, siege, rape. People were forced to convert to Islam or be subject to paying taxes or death.

Paganism, although wrong, should not be seen as foreign. Doing so is historically inaccurate.

[Bosniensis]

Well the Vatican is a theocracy yet they are strongly against death punishment. By that I meant the pope and the Catholic Church. I don't think they are atheists, they have just evolved.

Well let's imagine for a second "All Mighty God that is all powerful, everlasting etc.."

Can God somehow: 1. Change his laws 2. abandon his laws

I think that God will never change His laws. I rather think that humans have started disobeying his Laws throughout time.

[Bosniensis]

The difference is Christianity entered Europe through the apostle Paul who traveled to Macedonia after seeing a vision to do so. It was organically installed into Europe and played a huge role in European society, art, culture. Europe's entire fabric is Intertwined around Christianity.

Islam on the other hand is absolutely foreign. It came in the form of murder, siege, rape. People were forced to convert to Islam or be subject to paying taxes or death.

Paganism, although wrong, should not be seen as foreign. Doing so is historically inaccurate.

Everything you said, I could say for Ottoman Empire.

I could say: "Islam came through Ottoman Emperor Mehmed Fatih who brought us a culture, traditions, songs that we all love etc...."

You are just talking from your standpoint.

Also. Hellenic Pagan could say:

"Christians and Muslims came to Europe destroyed all our traditions and values etc..."

Don't observe from your standpoint.

[Vojnik]

Christianity brought beauty and great moral values to the continent. Islam brought destruction.

[Bosniensis]

Christianity brought beauty and great moral values to the continent. Islam brought destruction.

Well my people had Bosnian Church which was neither Constantinople or Rome.

Both Rome and Constantinople brought destruction and terror for not aligning to east or west.

Both Orthodox and Catholics murdered many people on their ways of Conquest it is just that you felt the sword of Ottomans.

For Example just look at the Syrians today... who is killing them? Who Bombed Libya, who bomben Afganistan etc... Christians maybe?

Where is your terror statement now?

[Lucia]

Well let's imagine for a second "All Mighty God that is all powerful, everlasting etc.."

Can God somehow: 1. Change his laws 2. abandon his laws

I think that God will never change His laws. I rather think that humans have started disobeying his Laws throughout time.

Of course, through the pope, the direct successor of Saint Peter:
“I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." (Mt 16,19)

[Vojnik]

Everything you said, I could say for Ottoman Empire.

I could say: "Islam came through Ottoman Emperor Mehmed Fatih who brought us a culture, traditions, songs that we all love etc...."

You are just talking from your standpoint.

Also. Hellenic Pagan could say:

"Christians and Muslims came to Europe destroyed all our traditions and values etc..."

Don't observe from your standpoint.

Yes, through a Ottoman emperor. Apostle Paul can't be put in the same category as a ottoman emperor with a army behind him. Christianity in its early days came humbly and gradually. Christians in the begging suffered a lot of prosecution just for believing in a monolithic religion. They were fed to lions etc.

I'm not looking at this from my own stand point. I agree both Islam and Christianity came from elsewhere, but the manner in which they entered into European society, and the way they influenced it are two different stories.

[Bosniensis]

Of course, through the pope, the direct successor of Saint Peter:
“I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." (Mt 16,19)

Well, then can you accept the fact that I disagree with that belief.

I think that Pope has no authority over Roman Emperor nor people of Europe who have the right to choose their belief as it suites them.

Should I be prosecuted or die because I disagree with Pope or Constantine the Great?

Cause it looks like we are being prosecuted for calling him (Pope) liar.

You just shared me your belief, I don't care about YOUR BELIEF.