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Thread: Soviet Union didn't singlehandedly win WWII: Lend Lease

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    Quote Originally Posted by deutschen Blutes View Post
    And I've already explained to you the problems with such a thesis. Also, the arguments against the alleged plans outweighs the little evidence that supports the thesis.



    The Nazi crimes doesn't justify the murders of innocent German civilians near the end of the war e.g the bombing of Dresden. I could give you a few books on the topic if you're interested.

    When you resort to ad hominems people know that you've lost the argument. I never even said the Allies had offensive plans in the 1930s. Perhaps you should try working on your reading comprehension. I suspect English is not your native language since you clearly are misunderstanding a lot of what I've said and your grammar is also absolutely terrible.
    For the person who are interested in history your knowledge is exceedingly limited, just like your idea about warfare and ability to answer simple questions. But why i'm surprised? Propensity to overall ignorance and mental degradation is the well known Nazi supporters method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    blablabla... Russian tradition of throwing bodies at their enemy...
    That's your initial claim I wanted you to back up. So far you failed to do it miserably.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    ... Stalin's orders of shooting any man who retreats.
    And here you adding another mythical claim you won't be able to prove.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    My list of battles and casualties during the Russo-Japanese War shows that reason prevails.
    So in your mind casualties ratio of 150 vs 90 or 19k vs 22k is throwing bodies at enemies? That is not even discussing the validity of these numbers. All I can say at this is you're one dumb redneck

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    It comes from the same place you got your numbers, you arse. You can't use Wikipedia and then wag a finger at someone who did the same.
    Oh, so it's from Wiki? When I was referring to it I posted links. I could only guess you're too stupid to know how to do it so I'll forgive you for such mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantomas View Post
    For the person who are interested in history your knowledge is exceedingly limited, just like your idea about warfare and ability to answer simple questions. But why i'm surprised? Propensity to overall ignorance and mental degradation is the well known Nazi supporters method.

    What a load of rubbish! You literally have no other argument so all you do is personally insult me.

    Perhaps improve your English and then we might be able to continue this conversation in a more mature way.

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    It was more of Hitler losing the war than anyone winning it.

    The man was a horrid military leader and in WW1 never attained a rank higher than Lance Corporal.
    This was despite winning the Iron Cross First class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deutschen Blutes View Post
    What a load of rubbish! You literally have no other argument so all you do is personally insult me.

    Perhaps improve your English and then we might be able to continue this conversation in a more mature way.
    Do you mean that your disability to answer the questions and to logical thinking is related with my bad English?! Nice excuse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantomas View Post
    Do you mean that your disability to answer the questions and to logical thinking is related with my bad English?! Nice excuse
    I think it's ostensibly safe to assume that you've lost the argument since you had to resort to personal attacks. The "logical thinking" you speak of is highly ironic when I was simply trying to have a rational discussion with you and because you didn't like what I said you labelled me as a "Nazi lover", lol.

    It's also very obvious that English is not your first language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deutschen Blutes View Post
    I think it's ostensibly safe to assume that you've lost the argument since you had to resort to personal attacks. The "logical thinking" you speak of is highly ironic when I was simply trying to have a rational discussion with you and because you didn't like what I said you labelled me as a "Nazi lover", lol.
    Long before that you said that i "must be totally ignorant" because of my position. Well that's why i can say that your remark about "losing the arguments" and "personal attack" has the opposite effect.

    It's also very obvious that English is not your first language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantomas View Post
    Long before that you said that i "must be totally ignorant" because of my position. Well that's why i can say that your remark about "losing the arguments" and "personal attack" has the opposite effect.


    Put those words into context, stop being so dishonest. I simply asked you to provide evidence for your thesis.

    You failed to do so and resorted to personal attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deutschen Blutes View Post
    Put those words into context, stop being so dishonest. I simply asked you to provide evidence for your thesis.

    You failed to do so and resorted to personal attacks.
    That's how this "context" started, in reply to my very polite comment:
    Quote Originally Posted by Fantomas View Post

    Thank you for your personal opinion
    ...you answered:
    Quote Originally Posted by deutschen Blutes View Post
    09-19-2017, 03:41 PM

    If you think that Poland was liberated in 1945 then you must be totally ignorant to the History of Poland between 1945-1889.

    Only after that, responding on this absolutely pro-Nazi comment with bs about language and pseudo-historical allegations...
    Quote Originally Posted by deutschen Blutes View Post
    09-20-2017, 08:36 AM

    You seriously think that Poland under communism after 1945 was liberation? Have you even read about what the Soviets did to Poland?

    You've even admitted the British and French did nothing to help the Poles after the Germans invaded Poland yet you somehow refuse to acknowledge the term "Phoney War" to describe the events.

    Is English your first language? Hardly any of what you have said makes any sense and you've almost certainly put words into my mouth.


    I think it's an absolute disgrace what the governments of both Britain and France did - they have the blood on their hands for all of the innocent soldiers who died and all of the innocent Germans who died and suffered nearer to the end of the war and those who survived afterwards.
    ...i let myself say "Nazi lover"
    Quote Originally Posted by Fantomas View Post
    09-20-2017, 09:45 AM

    Yes i think so, Poland was liberated in 1945, maybe partially, but liberated.
    That's really funny to read from Nazi lover person about "blood of innocent Germans". they should think about it before they began new world massacre. If Allies did not care about Poles, so they wouldn't have to claim war against Germany. I said you about objective reasons why there's no large offensive through German border in Sep.1939. You haven't called me any reason against it except for absolutely irrational duty to die without sense. Don't start getting your irrational Nazi way of thinking on Allied Command
    I'm still waiting for 1930's offensive plan of Allies.
    So you're not simply asked smth. and i not failed to answer, that's exactly the opposite
    DE OPPRESSO LIBER


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    Fantomas, there is a difference between stating that someone is ignorant about a certain period of history after there have replied a few times and shown their lack of knowledge on the subject to directly calling someone a "Nazi lover".

    When it comes to the controversy about the thesis that Stalin was preparing to attack Germany in 1941, you have time and time again ignored any evidence to the contrary of what you have posted.

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