Eastern Germans of Slavic descent or Western Poles of Germanic descent?

[Lavrentis]

Which one of the two is more correct?

[Ülev]

West Poland include Pomerania (Pomorze), Greater Poland (Wielkopolska) and Silesia (Śląsk) but not more western regions like Lubusz Voivodschip, West Pomerania or Lower Silesia were lives people resettled from Lviv, Belarus or Lithuania.Warmia and Masuria, Lubusz voivodeship, Western Pomerania and Lower Silesia = so called Recovered for one or 'lost' for the second Territories --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recovered_Territories



these regions are now genetically, culturally and mentally Eastern Poland

[Peterski]

Which one of the two is more correct?

Depends.

For example here are my results (West Polish) and Austrian (South-East German) in DNA Land:





As you can see we are both 1/2 Slavic, but he is more Southern Euro, and I'm more NW Euro.

However, North-East Germans (Prussians etc.) will not score as much of Southern Euro.

[Peterski]

West Polish vs. South-Eastern German (Austrian):

Northern Slavic = 55% vs. 49%
North-West Euro = 36% vs. 25%
Southern Euro = 9% vs. 24%
Ambiguous = 0% vs. 2%

This is me vs. Noricum, but our results are typical.

[Lavrentis]

Depends.

For example here are my results (West Polish) and Austrian (South-East German) in DNA Land:





As you can see we are both 1/2 Slavic, but he is more Southern Euro, and I'm more NW Euro.

However, North-East Germans (Prussians etc.) will not score as much of Southern Euro.

But on average, which one is the most correct? Some people in this forum say that East Germans have Slavic ancestry, and some others say that Western Poles have Germanic ancestry. However, only one of these two options is more possible to exist.

[JohnSmith]

I consider Slavic and Germanic to be more of a cultural identity vs. a rather genetic one.

I think it depends on the cultures and traditions of the people ,, are they were Germanic or Slavic? IDK

I think the Slavic and Germanic languages sounds very different from each other, when I here it spoken.

[Peterski]

But on average, which one is the most correct? Some people in this forum say that East Germans have Slavic ancestry, and some others say that Western Poles have Germanic ancestry. However, only one of these two options is more possible to exist.

Probably saying that East Germans have Slavic ancestry is more correct.

They are kind of like Pontic Greeks.

Some Pontic Greeks have no detectable actual Greek ancestry, like this one:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-Eurogenes-K15

[Rethel]

Depends.

For example here are my results (West Polish) and Austrian (South-East German) in DNA Land:

As you can see we are both 1/2 Slavic, but he is more Southern Euro, and I'm more NW Euro.

However, North-East Germans (Prussians etc.) will not score as much of Southern Euro.

Eee, it doesn;t show reality.
Some Slav could be entirly autosomaly german and later multiply strongly with other au-german women,
or some German could be autosomaly slavic and do the same with au-slavic women.

[Karol Klačansky]

Depends.

For example here are my results (West Polish) and Austrian (South-East German) in DNA Land:





As you can see we are both 1/2 Slavic, but he is more Southern Euro, and I'm more NW Euro.

However, North-East Germans (Prussians etc.) will not score as much of Southern Euro.

That's just not true. First off that guy isn't a typical Austrian he is from a region with almost completely Slovenian Ancestry and his last name is Slovenian. He is definitely heavily Slavic. Regions like steiermark have been sampled and found to have over 40% R1a. They aren't like the rest of austrians and not a good proxy for east Germans. Also DNA land is not a good calc for testing ancestry. On any PCA plot you cluster very close to other Slavic Populations. If we take central ukrainians as a proxy for full slavs youre about 80-90% Slavic not half. Even I'm not half usually I score around 60% easter euro on most tests except for DNA land which is not reliable.

Western poles cluster no where near non east Germans. East Germans definitely have Slavic Ancestry, Western poles have some Germanic ancestry but not as much as eastern Germans Slavic ancestry

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[Lucas]

That's just not true. First off that guy isn't a typical Austrian he is from a region with almost completely Slovenian Ancestry and his last name is Slovenian. He is definitely heavily Slavic. Regions like steiermark have been sampled and found to have over 40% R1a. They aren't like the rest of austrians and not a good proxy for east Germans. Also DNA land is not a good calc for testing ancestry. On any PCA plot you cluster very close to other Slavic Populations. If we take central ukrainians as a proxy for full slavs youre about 80-90% Slavic not half. Even I'm not half usually I score around 60% easter euro on most tests except for DNA land which is not reliable.

Western poles cluster no where near non east Germans. East Germans definitely have Slavic Ancestry, Western poles have some Germanic ancestry but not as much as eastern Germans Slavic ancestry

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Agree