0
Thumbs Up |
Received: 911 Given: 1,954 |
So may be Finnic theory of paleolithic Europe is valid?
Thumbs Up |
Received: 911 Given: 1,954 |
Add light skin, hair and eyes common among fins and surrounding regions and picture is emerging?
Thumbs Up |
Received: 747 Given: 368 |
Thumbs Up |
Received: 364 Given: 0 |
The point is both is valid, because the North East has the least Neolithic influence, yet the strongest Mongoloid, but the base was overwhelmingly Mesolithic-Cromagnoid, which is the base of the Osteuropid racial spectrum.
It is just the more extreme Eastbaltid and Lappoids which really deviate and those are not just the product of admixture, but also subsequent selection and cold adaptation in which this otherwise rather undesirable traits proved to be, one way or another, fit for survival in a certian North Eastern context.
To call that Northern European is strange though, a real misnomer...
Thumbs Up |
Received: 20 Given: 0 |
Someone like this doesn't show any exclusively mongoloid (or more specifically east-asian derived) traits, necessarily, at least to me. Unless you consider the flatter upper facial region and the prominent zygomatic structures to be exclusive to the mongoloid type. I don't know of any people indigenous to the subarctic climate that don't show these traits, so they may be autochthonous traits developed seperately. These Ladogan, or northwestern Russian, Finnic (to some extent) people are specialized to a forested environment, if I am correct, that would make them smaller as well.
She looks to me like a primitive version of more western european types.
Last edited by The Journeyman; 12-22-2010 at 12:12 PM.
Thumbs Up |
Received: 364 Given: 0 |
Well, there was a combined Mesolithic-Neolithic expansion after the last Ice Age which brought the progressive Aurignacoid and progressive Cromagnid elements into Europe and formed the more balanced and progressive-harmonious base in Europeans to this day.
Yet one has to recognise that there came also more primitive elements both with the new waves - and they were present already.
In the end, crucial was the SELECTION after the immigration of the new elements which brougth favourable traits, because from all three elements, (refugia and Ice-Age survivors, Mesolithic and Neolithic newcomers) the best were selected in specific prehistoric populations which were under strong selective pressures due to high level individual and group selection.
But definitely, as it seems by now, most of the better variants came from Eastern Europe-Central Asia and South Eastern Europe-Anatolia in two events of a Mesolithic and then Neolithic expansion, even though they too had significant internatal variation and the final formation happened regionally in Europe.
Crucial is whether the zygomata are forward put when looking at the face in profile. How big is the distance between f.e. the nasal root and the cheekbones most forward prominence.prominent prominent zygomatic structures to be exclusive to the mongoloid type.
I always use this two Lapps for the illustration.
Mongoloid pattern:
Europoid pattern:
Note that the broadness of the face, even the prominence of the zygomatica from the frontal view is not of great signficance for the distinction.
Last edited by Agrippa; 12-19-2010 at 04:02 PM.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Bookmarks