The Lie of the Hadith

[Profileid]

The woman that turns him down is deceptive? hahahaahaha

[al-Bosni]

The woman that turns him down is deceptive? hahahaahaha

No one turned him down... A woman deceived her out of jealousy.

[Profileid]

No one turned him down... A woman deceived her out of jealousy.

she clearly did

[crazyladybutterfly]

The whole story is

"...She was the most beautiful amongst women, so when the women (of Medina) learnt of her beauty they came unto her. One of them said to her, ‘You are a queen, if you wish to be closer to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him, then say to him when he comes to you, ‘I seek refuge from you’, (this way) you will become adorable to him and he will be much inclined to you."

(Tabaqat al-Kubra 8/114)


Also, another narration quoted by Ibn Sa’d says everything:

“al-Jauniyya sought refuge from the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him, for she was told this word will make her adorable to the Prophet. No one other woman sought refuge from him. This was a deception to her because of her beauty. When those who made her to say this were mentioned to the Messenger of Allah he said, ‘They are like the women of Yusuf and their treachery is great.’”

(Tabaqat al-Kubra 8/114)

so if a QUEEN refuses to be the slave of the same man who made her powerless , destroyed her people, killed her husband etc
she must have been deceived? dude wtf

[al-Bosni]

she clearly did

Sure, you can believe that if you only want to believe in parts of the story and not the whole story. It seems that you are deceiving yourself by doing the former. He he, ha ha, ho ho.

[Dandelion]

How did Bukhari manage to memorize over 500x the amount of info as an autistic savant in the modern age?
Makes me think.

Perhaps he was an autistic savant.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

^^^ Imam Nawawi, ibn Taymiyah, ash-Shafi, ibn kathir, etc. These are legends among Islamic scholars.

Damn right skipper, they're the Rockstars of Islamic theology

[B01AB20]

Exactly, religion is all man made whether there is a God or not is a totally seperate question and if he does exist he would have to be more of a non-interventionist Deist type God. Religion is low IQ bullshit.

Indeed.

East asian religions like buddhism, confucianism or taoism are much more mature and spiritually profound that all that crap of almigthy gods with human emotions who seem more like marvel super-heroes than spiritual beigns.

[Profileid]

Sure, you can believe that if you only want to believe in parts of the story and not the whole story. It seems that you are deceiving yourself by doing the former. He he, ha ha, ho ho.

Yet youre the one who believes he memorized an impossible amount
this story directly states she turned him down

[al-Bosni]

Yet youre the one who believes he memorized an impossible amount
this story directly states she turned him down

Nothing is impossible by the will of Allah.