The Lie of the Hadith

[al-Bosni]

al bosni dont be triggered at me

OK

[crazyladybutterfly]

That modern crap has been debunked.

https://islamqa.info/en/122534

was albani hadith written before or after boukari?

[crazyladybutterfly]

who is right ? considering how absurd the circumstances around boukaris are?

The marriage of Sayyida Aisha was consummated after the Hijrah. Hadith specialist, alrence points for other events. Despite the ‘six-nine’ hadith mentioned in the introduction, most eminent early Muslim historians either state explicitly or imply that Aisha -Nawawi, places it definitively in the second year, after the Battle of Badr.[7] This provides a good example of how memorable events, in this case, the Battle of Badr, were used as refewas born prior to prophecy, which commenced thirteen years before the Hijrah. Ibn Hajar al-`Asqalláni states in al-Isábah, citing al-Wáqidi, on the authority of al-`Abbás (uncle of the Prophet ), that “Fatima was born while the Ka`ba was being built… and the Prophet was thirty-five years of age… and she [Fatima] was about five years older than Aisha.”[8] We can assume that this statement of al-`Abbas is reliable as he remembers the birth of his nephew’s daughter taking place while the Ka’ba was being rebuilt. This was an event of major spiritual significance for Quraysh, and thus firmly etched in their memories. For example, most people can tell you what they were doing the day President Kennedy was assassinated (if they are old enough), the first man walked on the moon or, to take a more recent event, the day the September 11th attacks in New York took place. This report indicates that Aisha was born approximately when the Prophet was forty, ie at the commencement of prophecy. Therefore, she would have been at least fifteen when the marriage was consummated in the second year after Hijra. Early Islam’s most renowned historian, al-Tabari, states: “In the Age of Ignorance [pre-Islamic period], Abu Bakr married Qutaila daughter of `Abd al-`Uzza…and she bore for him `Abdullah and Asmaa…he also married, in the Age of Ignorance, Umm Ruman daughter of `Amir…she bore for him `Abd al-Rahman and `Aisha. All four of these children were born in the pre-Islamic period.”[9] This statement of al-Tabari, a scholar renowned for his accuracy and critical methodology[10], clearly asserts that Aisha was born before the beginning of prophecy. However, we know that al-Tabari is aware of the ‘six-nine’ hadith as he quotes it in the same book.[11] This apparent contradiction can be understood when the methodology of the early hadith scholars is taken into account. Early works, like al-Tabari’s, were careful to differentiate between transmitted reports from earlier authorities and the compiler’s own opinion. For example, in his famous tafsir work, Tabari’s format is to cite the opinions of earlier scholars (with the corresponding chain of narrators) before giving his own opinion on the quranic verse in question. Often he will agree with one of the transmitted reports and give his reasoning as to why he believes it is stronger than other opinions.

http://hameem.org/index.php/multimed...ce-be-upon-him

[al-Bosni]

was albani hadith written before or after boukari?

Useless question.

[crazyladybutterfly]

Useless question.

how is it useless? some ruler might have asked some writer to invent that aisha was 9 years old so that he could abuse a little girl exploiting the religion , even at that time child abuse was looked down

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Again with the lies. There is no hadith that says her age was not 6-7 at the time of marriage and 9-10 at the time of consummation.

I would give you credit for acknowledging Muhammad fucked a child except that you don't think it was immoral.

"Stop slandering our God with accusations that he was not a pedophile."

[crazyladybutterfly]

I would give you credit for acknowledging Muhammad fucked a child except that you don't think it was immoral.

"Stop slandering our God with accusations that he was not a pedophile."

but we can never know if he did that
it s weird how his other wives/slaves were adults and adolescents then he picked up a child

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Only the Lord is responsible for who can see and who is blind.
Your hate-spreading is worthless because you can't make those who are already blind more blind, and you can't make those who can see blind.

The Council of Nicea decided which books would comprise the Christian Testament, omitting the Nazarene (Jewish) texts, preferring instead the Greek (non-Jewish) texts. This Council also decided that Trinitarian views would be the preferred belief of the Christian church and not Unitarian beliefs. This was in the 300s, long after Jesus had ascended. So the Christian church was formed, and manipulated, long after Jesus was gone.

And the belief system that was eventually manipulated into Christianity was much influenced by the already-existing pagan myths that were (at least somewhat) shared by the Roman, Greek, and Germanic/Norse/Slavic pagans -- and was DESIGNED to manipulate them into accepting the new organized religion known as Christianity. If you want me to elaborate on the pervasiveness of Odinic beliefs into the Roman and Greek Jesus narrative, I will.

Judaism is also based on a blending of previously held pagan beliefs as well. A number of stories were taken from other groups in the Middle East (such as the flood and Noah's ark). Judaism was also heavily influenced by Egypt's brief spell with monotheism.

None of it is real, Arduti. You might as well worship my god, Crom. Crom is mighty. He slayed giants.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

but we can never know if he did that
it s weird how his other wives/slaves were adults and adolescents then he picked up a child

That's the thing about pedophiles: they can have normal tastes but also a taste that diverges from the norm. I assume his pedophilia was outside of the norm. For all I know there can be a strong tendency towards pedophilia among Arabs. It's not like pedophilia is taboo in Saudia Arabia today. So the question is whether Muhammad was a pedophile because of a mental glitch in his mentality and people were all like, "Dude, Muhammad is banging a 9 year old. She's a couple of years away from puberty. That's sick, brah." or sex before puberty wasn't frowned upon by the locals.

[crazyladybutterfly]

That's the thing about pedophiles: they can have normal tastes but also a taste that diverges from the norm. I assume his pedophilia was outside of the norm. For all I know there can be a strong tendency towards pedophilia among Arabs. It's not like pedophilia is taboo in Saudia Arabia today. So the question is whether Muhammad was a pedophile because of a mental glitch in his mentality and people were all like, "Dude, Muhammad is banging a 9 year old. She's a couple of years away from puberty. That's sick, brah." or sex before puberty wasn't frowned upon by the locals.

but he never had a relationship with other children??? someone attracted to female children would have taken more than 1 girl at his place

how do you know if pedophilia is accepted by saudis? most child brides are not children but adolescents