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    Nevermind the video title, it is misleading. Just watch it. Almost made me cry... and I'm a grown man.

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    Now I understand why Columbus statues are offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Nevermind the video title, it is misleading. Just watch it. Almost made me cry... and I'm a grown man.

    That happened all over the The Americas and W. Hemisphere. Same deal in Australia, etc. How did Africans learn to speak French, Portuguese, English, Spanish? It wasn't rosetta stone lessons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMack View Post
    That happened all over the The Americas and W. Hemisphere. Same deal in Australia, etc. How did Africans learn to speak French, Portuguese, English, Spanish? It wasn't rosetta stone lessons.
    Doesn't make it cool if it happened in many places.. but worse. I mean, masses of people's hands, noses, ears chopped off... millions of buffaloes massacred in a short time to deprive them of their livelihood... it truly was a genocide of epic proportions. I honestly didn't know it was so bad until now... you never hear about it. And despite Apartheid, we in South Africa were never that cruel to the natives. This was a whole different dimension.
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    8 million deaths is an insane exaggeration.

    Also odd that they quote all those white men with a fake southern accent.. they were northerners. Stereotyping much? Must read any racist sentence with a southern accent?

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    What an atrocity... Absurd.

    The Trial of Tears is one of the saddest things I ever heard about.

    Iberians and other colonists (Germans, Italians) in Latin America were never that cruel. Even in the beggining of the colonization you can find people like Bartolomé de las Casas fighting for the natives rights. Many laws have been proclaimed by Spanish and Portuguese kings forbidding the killing and enslavement of the natives, many mixed people and even full Amerindians were considered citizens and so on.

    Don't know why Anglo historiography pushed so hard the so called ''leyenda negra'' (black legend) against Iberian colonists when they were 1000x worse themselves. To be honest, I actually know, it was always part of the same stratagem to make people believe Anglos are saviours of mankind/reedemers and other shits like that and other European colonists were brutes.

    Even in South Africa before the English the Boers were never so brutal with natives. British Empire + Americans have killed more than 400 million people in the last two centuries. Anglo civilization is definitely one of the most brutal that ever existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears Beaumont View Post
    Even in South Africa before the English the Boers were never so brutal with natives.
    Exactly. We never tried to wipe them out, never just massacred them for land, only fought wars with them when we were threatened, and in retaliation. And definitely never tortured them like that. I'm sickened to my stomach to read these things. Horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Doesn't make it cool if it happened in many places.. but worse. I mean, masses of people's hands, noses, ears chopped off... millions of buffaloes massacred in a short time to deprive them of their livelihood... it truly was a genocide of epic proportions. I honestly didn't know it was so bad until now... you never hear about it. And despite Apartheid, we in South Africa were never that cruel to the natives. This was a whole different dimension.
    The British Empire was by far the largest and most successful Empire in history. They did a lot of really bad stuff. You can only claw back so far.
    It is in the past.

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    Didn't have time to watch the whole video, but i don't need to. Everything we did was justified. Nobody has any inherent right to land just because they were there first.

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    Let's not pretend the Indians were a bunch of peaceful savages. That's a quixotic myth with no basis in reality. They were anything but that and were very brutal to one another. Let's also not forget that the early colonists were under constant threat of Indian raids. Do you want to know what Indians did to whites? Read this: https://www.amren.com/news/2013/08/t...ut-one-family/

    The only reason the American colonists are singled out is because they were victorious.

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