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    Quote Originally Posted by Albobalboa View Post
    Two options, one is the obvious which means splitting the country up. The other is about promoting the Bulgarian identity, as all Macedonians won't adopt it it will lead to the weakening of the Macedonian identity. Effectively that would strengthen Albanian position in Macedonia.

    Everything in small steps.
    You are wrong. Macedonian identity actually helps the Albanian ideas&plans.

    The only true friend of Macedonia is Bulgaria, but the Macedonian population still does not realize that. We all know what are they doing with our common history, yet we still manage to help them when necessary. Yet they rely only on Serbs who are total losers and will only watch and laugh if something bad happens in Macedonia. We all know the Greek opinion of this topic.

    So now imagine Bulgaria and Macedonia with cleared up historical issues and Macedonian people being aware of whos good and whos bad. As much as I like Albos, they would be in trouble regarding their national ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Relax - Albanians are 5% of the population alot of them female officially (not counting the illegal immigrants) but yet make 20% of the military. What are you drinking boy.

    Greece has also gets alot of other foreigners but Albanians are the biggest foreigner.
    Greeks are leaving Greece day by day., I'm not even kidding. Almost all Greek friends from the university that graduated are planning on leaving or have already left.

    20.000-30.000 Albanians get the Greek citizenship each year because of this , do the math !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    You are wrong. Macedonian identity actually helps the Albanian ideas&plans.

    The only true friend of Macedonia is Bulgaria, but the Macedonian population still does not realize that. We all know what are they doing with our common history, yet we still manage to help them when necessary. Yet they rely only on Serbs who are total losers and will only watch and laugh if something bad happens in Macedonia. We all know the Greek opinion of this topic.

    So now imagine Bulgaria and Macedonia with cleared up historical issues and Macedonian people being aware of whos good and whos bad. As much as I like Albos, they would be in trouble regarding their national ideas.
    The funny thing is that i've never seen an Albo having problems with Bulgarians. Why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ujku View Post
    The thing is that many ethnic Albanians claimed to be Macedonians when they counted the population so they could get better jobs. I have a cousin that lives in a village near tetove and he told me that the Macedonias prefer hiring other Macedonias and that makes many Albo to claim that they are Macedonias for a better job.

    Next time they count the population demographics will change a lot because Albanians have more rights now.

    He also told me that half of Skopje is comprised of Albanians.


    As for the army thing , 20% of the young men that serve in the Greek army each year are ethnic Albanians and it changed nothing here.
    So when they apply for job they might say that they are Macedonian, but what stops them to declare that they are Albanians on the census. Isnt it anonymous??

    Even if thats the case - those people wouldnt make a big number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ujku View Post
    Greeks are leaving Greece day by day., I'm not even kidding. Almost all Greek friends from the university that graduated are planning on leaving or have already left.

    20.000-30.000 Albanians get the Greek citizenship each year because of this , do the math !!!
    Greek men are not allowed to leave the country if they dont serve military first. What are you smoking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Greek men are not allowed to leave the country if they dont serve military first. What are you smoking.
    Hahahha , It seems that you left Greece LONG time ago.

    Many even leave Greece to avoid joining the army!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ujku View Post
    The funny thing is that i've never seen an Albo having problems with Bulgarians. Why is that?
    Well man. We all would agree that Macedonia is not a normal state that functions well. Currently Albos are doing whatever they want there, as Macedonia is a total banana state.

    With a big Bulgarian influence that wont be the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    Well man. We all would agree that Macedonia is not a normal state that functions well. Currently Albos are doing whatever they want there, as Macedonia is a total banana state.

    With a big Bulgarian influence that wont be the case.
    It's not Albanians , Americans are responsible for this mess.

    Albanians do what Americans tell them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ujku View Post
    Hahahha , It seems that you left Greece LONG time ago.

    Many even leave Greece to avoid joining the army!!
    I had to serve army before I could study university abroad this was in 2005.. no way that law has changed. You can not obtain paperwork legally in Greece if military was not served unless you pay a fine upfront.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    You are wrong. Macedonian identity actually helps the Albanian ideas&plans.

    The only true friend of Macedonia is Bulgaria, but the Macedonian population still does not realize that. We all know what are they doing with our common history, yet we still manage to help them when necessary. Yet they rely only on Serbs who are total losers and will only watch and laugh if something bad happens in Macedonia. We all know the Greek opinion of this topic.

    So now imagine Bulgaria and Macedonia with cleared up historical issues and Macedonian people being aware of whos good and whos bad. As much as I like Albos, they would be in trouble regarding their national ideas.
    Bulgaria and Macedonia haven't had that many actual problems in the past decades. The Macedonian identity has still remained and as some will be re-Bulgarized, some won't. That will lead to the amount of Bulgarians increasing and the amount of Macedonians decreasing, but Macedonians remaining. But you could be right, I just don't think the Macedonian-Bulgarian identities will co-exist well in Macedonia, not to the point where they will be able to unite in any significant way. Macedonians are split in half already without Bulgarian identity in the mix. Once some of them start declaring as Bulgarian and others don't, it will weaken Macedonianism. If they all become re-Bulgarized I'd agree it would be a problem for Albanian interests.

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