R1a-M417 in Copper Age Alexandria

[Rethel]

His mtDNA probably points also to the presence of CHG admixture.

So early, and still it didn't matter - neither mt, neither her au-appearience.

[Rethel]

But were they styhians or sarmatians?

Ykpc.

Your wrong however in assuming that civilization started or stems from that.

We do not think like that at all.
It is your own submission.

It doesn’t. It stems from the invention of agriculture. That step put us out of a primitive hunter gatherer lifestyle.

I allready said to you, that all people were farmers at the begining.
So it was not the invention of any particular group.

[The Sun King]

Ykpc.



We do not think like that at all.
It is your own submission.



I allready said to you, that all people were farmers at the begining.
So it was not the invention of any particular group.

Where do you get ( source please) we were all farmers? We were not. It was an invention. From the Middle East who came to Europe at a time when Europe’s population were Hunter Gatherers and not farmers.

[The Sun King]

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/origin...s_europe.shtml


There’s a map on this page that will show what I’m talking about.

[Rethel]

Where do you get ( source please) we were all farmers? We were not. It was an invention. From the Middle East who came to Europe at a time when Europe’s population were Hunter Gatherers and not farmers.

Yes, we were all, as our forefathers were.
Some just stopped for a while to do this job,
because of a different enviroment which they
founded in the new place of living.

In the Book of Genesis stood written:

"Jehovah God took the man and settled him in the garden
of Eʹden to cultivate it and to take care of it.

And to Adam he said: “Because you listened to your wife’s voice and ate from the tree
concerning which I gave you this command, ‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the
ground on your account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life.
It will grow thorns and thistles for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field.
In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out
of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”

Abel became a shepherd of the flock, but Cain became a cultivator of the ground.
After some time, Cain brought some fruits of the land as an offering to Jehovah.

Now Noah started off as a farmer, and he planted a vineyard.

As we are all descendants of Adam and Noah, then we all were farmers, especially,
that at babel times, we all had to grow food beofre we were scattered across the earth.

[blogen]

To all followers of "R1a out of India" and "R1a hunter-gatherer leftovers" theories:

One. This lonely migrant isn't enough for even a significant drifting.

Pls! R1a is mesolithic Eastern European. The R1a Slavs are mostly assimilated HG peoples, live with it!

[The Sun King]

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[War Chef]

To put into perspective :

[zarzian]

Davidski's minions are at large, desperately trying claim m417 as somehow being originally Slavic, when Slavic is only a thousand years old. The oldest m417 comes from way east in the Altai meaning it is an eastern haplogroup, more likely from Central Asia, so there goes your last desperate attempt to try to connect yourselves to PIE , which was only based on an arbitrarily Geographical conotation. All this proves is that Slavs are rape products of a few R1a men from Asia subduing high inhibition low T baltic and Eastern Euro hunter gatherers.

[Kamal900]

All this proves is that Slavs are rape products of a few R1a men from Asia subduing high inhibition low T baltic and Eastern Euro hunter gatherers.

Which is also true for the Turkic peoples of Siberia and Mongolia as well. Ouch. Never knew the R1a men were that Alpha, lol.