First of October 2017, Catalunya independence referendum.

[Kouros]

It's normal that you voted no, but this have nothing to do with commie or other similar things. It's simple, your country it's the epitome of a country created by different ethnic groups stealing the lands of the others.
Anyway, thanks for the vote.
P.s.
A friendly advice.
Control your instincts, no hate, stop with fuck this and fuck that. This can be harmful for your brain and can led you to stupidity.

Seriously, what is your problem?

[Laberia]

Seriously, what is your problem?

No, i don`t have any problem. You are attacking a lot of people here. The last victim of your attacks was this ne Bulgarian member. But all this is not enough for you. Now you are attacking entire regions:

Fuck Catalonia.

Let me give you an other advice, take a break, log out for some time and follow your normal life if you have one. Your mental degradation was very faster, you are member here from only 2-3 months.

[Kouros]

No, i don`t have any problem. You are attacking a lot of people here. The last victim of your attacks was this ne Bulgarian member. But all this is not enough for you. Now you are attacking entire regions:

Let me give you an other advice, take a break, log out for some time and follow your normal life if you have one. Your mental degradation was very faster, you are member here from only 2-3 months.

1. I've never attacked any other member on this board but you.

2. Don't tell me what to do and stop projecting your mental illness on me, it will only get worse.

3. I don't think you understand this whole Catalonian situation, I think you want Catalonian freedom because, as usual, some Spanish member on here angered you. Jehan puts the whole situation perfectly, they are selfish leftist scum:

Catalonian are pro immigrants this reason alone should forbid them to become a nation.

In the other hand it might be a laboratory. If they become independant and turn one of the richest region in Spain in a shithole due to immigration and leftism. It wold the best proof of what is the best for european people.
Maybe we should sacrify the place, just the time to show everybody the truth. After it always to reconquer it and make ethnic cleaning.

Also do you have any additional comments on this Laberian psycho-analytical passage by Mr. Grimes you complexed parasite? Hopefully an Irishman doesn't push you to the brink of bringing up the potato famine. He is so spot on it's hilarious:

Laberia doesn't care about the independence of Catalunya. He only cares that there are Spaniards on this forum that upset him and so this is his passive aggressive bitchy way of 'getting back at them,' which is how he typically deals with posters when he gets upset. The guy even thumbed up a post I made in another thread similar to that of Melki's where I call the Catalan independence movement the "what have you done for me lately movement." At least when I talk about Kosovo I do it from a belief formed by the facts and not because 'I iz mad at Albanians!' Even Abubu acknowledges the shadiness behind NATO's actions and purposes.

If an Irishman upset Laberia regularly he'd make a thread about the Potato famine. If an Australian upset him regularly he'd make a thread about how Australia was a prison colony. This is Laberia's pattern of behavior. A pathetic individual.

And this young Romanian man seems to agree as well:

Lol what a cuck, why the hell would someone take this forum seriously?

Because he's weak and hence why he trolls Serbs, Greeks, etc. It's easier to do so online then to face them in real life. The guy won't even post his pic out of fear.

So basically you are a little crybaby and most of this forum agrees.

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And yes I do believe I was harsh by saying 'fuck Catalonia'. I still don't think a Catalonian would take me seriously as Laberia did, being the ethnic Catalan he is.

Sorry if I'm being rude but you're fucking up, stop filling your country with refugees. I expect better from the people who conquered the Americas and basically publicized racial consciousness.

[Laberia]

1. I've never attacked any other member on this board but you.

brennus, the most ridiculous feature of your character is that you are a liar.
This new Bulgarian member explained his point of view with a very detailed and elaborate post. My interest is not if he is wrong or right in his post. My interest is your reaction. And this is your answer to him:

Who the hell claimed we are a homogeneous nation? Minorities don't belong in Greece as much as they don't belong in Bulgaria, I will leave Albania out of this because no minority would want to reside there, but minorities should be expelled from every balkan country if the region is to move forward.

Also no one cares if you held Salonica for a couple decades, don't be a chauvinist idiot and stop with these autistic maps.

As you and the others can see, when you don't have arguments, you attack the person.

2. Don't tell me what to do and stop projecting your mental illness on me, it will only get worse.

3. I don't think you understand this whole Catalonian situation, I think you want Catalonian freedom because, as usual, some Spanish member on here angered you. Jehan puts the whole situation perfectly, they are selfish leftist scum:



Also do you have any additional comments on this Laberian psycho-analytical passage by Mr. Grimes you complexed parasite? Hopefully an Irishman doesn't push you to the brink of bringing up the potato famine. He is so spot on it's hilarious:



And this young Romanian man seems to agree as well:




So basically you are a little crybaby and most of this forum agrees.

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And yes I do believe I was harsh by saying 'fuck Catalonia'. I still don't think a Catalonian would take me seriously as Laberia did, being the ethnic Catalan he is.

Sorry if I'm being rude but you're fucking up, stop filling your country with refugees. I expect better from the people who conquered the Americas and basically publicized racial consciousness.

Now, as i said in another thread, i don't have time and interest to discuss with an idiot without life who use different accounts in this forum, because, among other things, you want to convince the people here that Greece is not a Balkan country but is situated in a imaginary place between Appennino Peninsula and Iberian Peninsula.
I want to explain to you little retard liar, that i don't attack any ethnicity when someone attacks me. In situations like this i answer to the poster directly, or when the member who attack me is totally idiot, i dedicate to him a separate thread. This can be verified very easily by checking the list of the threads started by me. Ok you retard liar?

[Laberia]

Back to the topic, of course if the troll will allow this.
"Rajoy is playing with fire":

[Laberia]

double post.

[Kouros]

The Independence movement in Catalunya is not leftist in nature. That is just how the Madrid government paint it. Those on the right, centre and left support independence and that is why over half of all Catalans voted for pro-independence parties.

Puigdemont is centre right. However more interestingly than this - the biggest blockers of Catalan Independence are the far left in both Madrid and Catalunya. Leftists by their very nature always seek further federalism and state unity. For example - the Catalan Monday session of parliament after the referendum was going to be the session that the Catalans declared independence. This session was blocked by a court injunction which was initiated by the Catalan left and submitted to the judges by the Catalan left. Needless to say they were successful in blocking the session. You can read about the party here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social...y_of_Catalonia


The Catalan socialists who are pro independence are the CUP and they only managed to get 1 quarter of the votes at the last election as the Socialist Party who are pro-unity. So the majority of socialists in Catalunya are pro unity.

Rajoy made sure the Spanish Socialists backed his Article 155 announcement before he made it as they would be key to selling the process and even voting on it because the PP have a minority. Needless to say they gave their loyalty to Rajoy without question.

So therefore the Catalan left is split between pro independence and unity with Spain - with 3/4s of Catalan Socialists backing unity with Spain. The right and centre in Catalan politics are the ones Independence hinged on. If this was simply a leftist rebellion in would have died out years ago - most Catalans do not vote in leftist parties - but like in other EU nations - leftist parties often find themselves as the king makers. The Catalan left is like SYRIZA in Greece. They like to attack the EU but as Tsipras and Varafoufakis constantly prove, they don't want to leave the EU under an circumstances and the EU know it.

As for the picture of immigrants in Catalunya. Like in most other places - the right are against it and the left for it.

Catalunya has been the industrial heartland of Spain since it industrialised in the 1850s. Catalans are natural businessmen and businesswomen. Natural traders. That is why the majority don't vote in leftist parties. The whole independence movement is based on making Catalunya richer and furthering Catalan culture. Like the Greek left - most the Catalan left don't give two craps about historical patriotism which are the foundation stones of Catalan identity. The Catalan Independence movement is underpinned by right wing ideologies. The Spanish civil war blurred those lines and many pro independence catalans were horrified by the anarchists during the civil war and stayed neutral as a result. The fact that these anarchists were burning down churches etc meant many of the Catalan right who were the architects of Independence abandoned the cause. Now they are all back and stronger than before.

Fair enough. According to what I've read your region actually encourages immigration though. If what you are saying is true I will accept it. I recognize your unique culture but I think a secession in the midst of this continent-wide chaos is dividing your people.

[Graham]

Fair enough. According to what I've read your region actually encourages immigration though. If what you are saying is true I will accept it. I recognize your unique culture but I think a secession in the midst of this continent-wide chaos is dividing your people.

Most of the migration that comes into Spain is EU policy led by the European Peoples Party. Who has a good role in this party? Oh the Spanish Peoples Party.

Anyone saying i'm against because of immigration doesnt give a good case.

[Laberia]

Catalunya declares Indipendence from Spain.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCBreaki...05074325155840
http://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/20...115908493.html
Barcelona - The Catalan parliament has voted to declare independence from Spain.
Seventy lawmakers voted in favour, 10 voted against, while two cast blank ballots.
The decision was made during a secret vote in Barcelona on Friday afternoon.
The names of those who voted for independence were withheld, as the Spanish attorney general promised to charge those who voted in favour of independence with “rebellion”.
After the declaration, the Spanish government voted in favour of the application of Article 155 of the Constitution, which allows Madrid to directly administer the breakaway region.
Two right-wing parties, Citizens (Cs) and People's Party (PP), along with the centre-left Socialist Party of Catalonia (PSC), left the Catalan parliament before the vote in protest.
Alberto Rivera, president of Cs, took to Twitter to call the vote "illegal". Miguel Iceta of the PSC said it was a "spectacular error".
During the special plenary in the Catalan parliament on Friday, Carles Riera from the far-left Popular Unity Candidacy party, asked that the declaration be voted upon.
"We take this step on our feet, with our heads held high. Not on our knees like subjects, but as free people without fear," he said.
Following the declaration, Spainish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy called for calm in a tweet.
"I ask for calm from all Spainards," Rajoy said. "The rule of law will restore legality in Catalonia."

[Laberia]

Following Friday’s independence vote, European Council president Donald Tusk said “nothing changes” for the EU, adding it would continue only to deal with the Madrid government.

Mr Tusk urged Spain to favour “force of argument, not argument of force” in addressing the independence declaration.

The United States said Catalonia was an “integral part of Spain” and that it supported Spanish government efforts to keep the nation “strong and united.”

State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said the two NATO allies “cooperate closely to advance our shared security and economic priorities.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...23221.html?amp