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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawing-slim View Post
    None of them are bad as long as im willing to accept that under sharia law there will be no more whores. Clearly white men are at fault by being dumb and not adopting islam.
    Best example is Iranian capital tehran, before islamic revolution tehran had more whores per sqaure meter than any city in the world, under islamic law now has zero whores.
    The US ecconomy would be much greater under a islamic america. White men work hard and once the white man knows that his wife is 100% faithful stay at home mother, he is gonna work happily 16 hour days if need be.
    Women have rights.

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    Quran (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176). In Islam, sexism is mathematically established.

    Males in Bosnia usually inherit double the females. It's logical, we fully adhere to that law. Females don't need houses while males DO!

    Quran (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."


    Two womans of course, cause womans testify against males MIGHT have (in rare cases) jealousy included from previous relationships etc... so TWO just in case.

    Quran (4:3) - (Wife-to-husband ratio) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" Inequality by numbers.


    We muslims are purely Patriarchal society, Word of Male in house is considered of greatest importance. We do respect an opinion of woman, but womans
    can never be an active decision maker.

    Quran (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" Men are to rub dirt on their hands, if there is no water to purify them, following casual contact with a woman (such as shaking hands).



    Means: If you had sex, wash yourself.. it's not related to woman as a being.

    Quran (4:3) - (Wife-to-husband ratio) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" Inequality by numbers.

    What's the problem with this, wealthy muslims do marry more than one woman EVEN TODAY in Bosnia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    Nothing wrong with that you should be proud,, but statistically the more educated a woman is the less children she has. I think it has a lot to do with economics.
    Islam promotes Patriarchate and explains the woman her job and her purpose. Females should not be angry on that.

    Economy is not problem, up to 1950 muslims were Hunting to survive, they did not had money at all here in Bosnia.. so how come that Economy is a problem?

    American way of life is a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoxhaism View Post
    You would be happier under islamic law. Stop watching kardashian tv, get rid of your whicked progressive thoughts. Be a good muslim sister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Islam promotes Patriarchate and explains the woman her job and her purpose. Females should not be angry on that.

    Economy is not problem, up to 1950 muslims were Hunting to survive, they did not had money at all here in Bosnia.. so how come that Economy is a problem?

    American way of life is a problem.
    I think the way Islam treats women is barbaric and that is a major reason why the West is superior. It has to do with the actions/beliefs nothing to do with the race or genetics of the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawing-slim View Post
    You would be happier under islamic law.
    Noone is happy under that shit. Even muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    I think the way Islam treats women is barbaric and that is a major reason why the West is superior. It has to do with the actions/beliefs nothing to do with the race or genetics of the people.
    Well look at your woman... they are more MALE than female.

    Nowdays in USA there is no difference between male and female.

    Feminism is a disease.

    It's not just muslims, there is no difference between Orthodox Christians and Muslims, they treat their womans the same way we do.

    It's just you.

    American way of life and MODERN CONCEPT of woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    Women have rights.
    Women have the right to be happy. By giving them to many rights we're making them unhappy.

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    slavery?

    Shaykh al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The reason for slavery is kufr and fighting against Allaah and His Messenger. When Allaah enables the Muslim mujaahideen who are offering their souls and their wealth, and fighting with all their strength and with what Allaah has given them to make the word of Allaah supreme over the kuffaar, then He makes them their property by means of slavery unless the ruler chooses to free them for nothing or for a ransom, if that serves the interests of the Muslims. End quote from Adwa’ al-Bayaan (3/387).

    He also said:

    If it is said: If the slave becomes Muslim then why keep him as a slave, when the reason for slavery is kufr and fighting against Allaah and His Messenger, so this reason no longer applies?

    The answer is that the well known principle among the scholars and all wise people, which is that the previously established right cannot be erased by a right that is established later, and that what came first takes precedence, is obvious.

    When the Muslims captured kuffaar, their right to possession was affirmed by the law of the Creator of all, Who is All Wise and All Knowing. So this right is confirmed and established. Then if the slave became Muslim after that, his right to escape slavery by embracing Islam was superseded by the mujaahid’s prior right to take possession of him before he became Muslim, and it would be unjust and unfair to annul the prior right because of a subsequent right, as is well known to all wise people.
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    "Abu Sai'd al-Khudri said : The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur'anic verse: [Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period. (1479)" Abu Dawud vol.2:2150 p.577

    The fact that it was OK for Muslims to have sex with captive women is also in Sahih Muslim vol.2:3371-3374 p.732-735; Abu Dawud vol.2:2150 and footnote 1479 p.577-578.

    Stripping female captives of their clothes is OK, according to Sahih Muslim vol.3:4345 p.953 and Ibn-i-Majah vol.4:2840 p.187.

    Sex with captives among the Bani Al-Mustaliq. Bukhari vol.9:506 p.372; Abu Dawud vol.2:2167 p.582

    "Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, 'Oh Allah's Apostle We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?' [a sexual practice] The Prophet said, 'Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it, No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence." Bukhari vol.3:432 p.237. See also Bukhari vol.5:459 p.317; vol.7:136-137 p.102-103; vol.8:600 p.391; Abu Dawud vol.2:2166,2168 p.582

    "After the distribution of the spoils of war a man may have intercourse with the female slave after passing one menstrual period, if she is not pregnant. If she is pregnant one should wait till she delivers the child. This is the view held by Malik, al-Shafi'i and Abu Thawr. Abu Hanifah holds that if both the husband and wife are captivated together, their marriage tie still continues; they will not be separated. According to the majority of scholars, they will be separated. Al-Awza-I maintains that their marriage tie will continue till they remain part of the spoils of war. If a man buys them, he may separate them if he desires, and cohabit with the female slave after one menstrual period. ('Awn al-Ma'bud II.213)" Note that Mohammed married Safiyah right after the battle. Abu Dawud vol.2 footnote 1479 p.577-578.

    Bukhari vol.7:22; vol.3:after 436, vol.3:432; vol.5:459; vol.8:600 also teach it is morally acceptable to force female slaves to have sex.

    "Can one travel with a slave-girl without knowing whether she is pregnant or not? Al-Hasan found no harm in her master's kissing or fondling with her.

    Ibn 'Umar said, 'If a slave-girl who is suitable to have sexual relations is given to somebody as a gift, or sold or manumitted [freed], her master should not have sexual intercourse with her before she gets one menstruation so as to be sure of absence of pregnancy, and there is no such necessity for a virgin.'

    'Ata said, 'There is no harm in fondling with one's pregnant (1) slave-girl without having sexual intercourse with her. Allah said: 'Except with their wives and the (women captives) whom their right hands possess (for in this case they are not to be blamed).'" Footnote (1) says, "Pregnant from another man, not her present master." Bukhari vol.3 ch.113 after no.436 p.239-240. (Same 'Ata as previous.)

    "And 'Ata disliked to look at those slave girls who used to be sold in Mecca unless he wanted to buy." Bukhari vol.8:246 p.162.

    If one reads the Qur'an (as I have from cover to cover), one can miss many things if you do not know the terminology. Now that we understand what "those whom your right hands possess" means, let's see what the Qur'an clearly states.

    "Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess...." Sura 4:24.



    "Those whom their right hands possess" is also mentioned in Sura 16:71.



    "...abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess - for (in their case) they are free from blame," Sura 23:5-6

    "And those who guard their chastity, Except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess, - for (then) they are not to be blamed," Sura 70:29-30

    It is not lawful to marry more than "these", except for those whom your right hands possess. Sura 33:52. See also Sura 33:50. So more than four "partners" is OK, as long as they other are merely those whom your right hands possess.

    "...abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess - for (in their case) they are free from blame," Sura 23:5-6. See also Sura 4:24

    "He [Mohammed] replied, 'Conceal your private parts except from your wife and from whom your right hands possess (slave-girls).'" Abu Dawud vol.3:4006 p.1123

    Abu Dawud vol.3:4443-4445 p.1244 shows that having sex with a slave-girl a man owns is OK, but a man will be flogged for having sex with his wife's slave-girl.

    As was typical of wealthy Arab men, Mohammed had a few slave girls too. See Bukhari vol.7:274 p.210.

    Salmah for was a maid-servant of Mohammed. Abu Dawud vol.3:3849 p.1084

    Maimuna was the freed slave girl of Mohammed. Ibn-i-Majah vol.3:2531 p.514; Abu Dawud vol.1:457 p.118

    Mohammed briefly had a "very beautiful" captive before he gave her to Mahmiyah b. Jaz' al-Zubaydi. al-Tabari vol.8 p.151

    One of the slave girls belonging to Mohammed house committed fornication with someone else. It is the "someone else" part that was a problem. Abu Dawud vol.3:4458 p.1249

    Mohammed called a black slave-girl to come and conceal Abu Dharr behind a curtain while he was taking a bath. Abu Dawud vol.1:332 p.87

    Beating Wives Should Not Be As Severe As Beating Slave Girls in Islam

    Bukhari vol.7:132 p.101 says not to flog your wife as you flog a slave and then sleep with her later. (It does not specify whether the slaves are male or female, because at another time (Ibn-i-Majah vol.3:1983 p.194) Mohammed criticized Muslim men for beating their wives in the same way they beat their slave-girls.)

    "'How does anyone of you beat his wife as he beats the stallion camel and then he may embrace (sleep with) her?' And Hisham said, 'As he beats his slave.'" Bukhari vol.8:68 p.42.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawing-slim View Post
    Women have the right to be happy. By giving them to many rights we're making them unhappy.
    I don't think so

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