Turkey OKs military intervention, warns Iraqi Kurds on independence vote

[StonyArabia]

Turkey might invade Northern Iraq.

The decree allows Turkey to send troops over its southern border if developments in Iraq or Syria are seen as national security threats. Turkish officials have repeatedly warned the semi-autonomous Kurdistan Regional Government in Iraq to abandon its plans for independence.

ISTANBUL—The Turkish parliament renewed a bill on Saturday that allows the military to intervene in Iraq and Syria if faced with national security threats, a move seen as a final warning to Iraqi Kurds to call off their independence referendum on Monday.

The decree allows Turkey to send troops over its southern border if developments in Iraq or Syria are seen as national security threats. Turkish officials have repeatedly warned the semi-autonomous Kurdistan Regional Government in Iraq to abandon its plans for independence.

Kurds are dispersed across Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran and lack a nation state. Turkey itself has a large ethnic Kurdish population and is battling a Kurdish insurgency on its own territory that it calls separatist.

The bill read in parliament Saturday listed combatting Kurdish militants in Syria and Iraq and Daesh as national security requirements for Turkey. It also emphasized the importance of Iraq and Syria’s territorial integrity and said “separatism based on ethnicity” poses a threat to both Turkey and regional stability.

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...s-on-vote.html

[Odin]

Kurds need to get their own state. It's time Middle East gets some dose of good old multiculturalism. Just Arabs and Jews running the whole region is simply boring imo.

[StonyArabia]

Kurds need to get their own state. It's time Middle East gets some dose of good old multiculturalism. Just Arabs and Jews running the whole region is simply boring imo.

Arabs don't run anything, because the Jews destroyed Iraq through several wars, which was the most powerful Arab nation, followed by the second strongest Arab nation which they neutralized that is Egypt, and they also damaged Syria. Thus the main players now is Jews, Persians and Turks.

Turks certainly don't want a Kurdistan. What is funny even Shia Kurds are not really pro-Kurdistan

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/en/o...yli-kurds.html

Persians don't want the Kurds to have independence because it might embolden independence movement of several ethnics like the Balochies, Kurds, and so on. Also Persians have more interest in annexing Southern Iraq region, which holds large amounts of oil, and to have Shia holy sites, they could care less about Kurdistan.

[Óttar]

Persians don't want the Kurds to have independence because it might embolden independence movement of several ethnics like the Balochies, Kurds, and so on.

Iran is allied with the Peshmurga.

[StonyArabia]

Iran is allied with the Peshmurga.

Only for the moment, due to common interest to defeat ISIS. ISIS is defeated.Iran is already sending it's militas to protect Mandali and Khankin from being annexed for example.However soon many of the ISISers will use mountains of Kurdistan to hide out, because they will go underground, and it's Afghanistan round two.

It will be interesting if Kurdistan will protect the rights of minorities such as Sunni Arabs, Assyrians, and Turkmens.

[Odin]

Arabs don't run anything, because the Jews destroyed Iraq through several wars, which was the most powerful Arab nation, followed by the second strongest Arab nation which they neutralized that is Egypt, and they also damaged Syria.

Saudis are still around.

Thus the main players now is Jews, Persians and Turks.

Erdogan needs to be replaced.

Turks certainly don't want a Kurdistan. What is funny even Shia Kurds are not really pro-Kurdistan

But many Kurds have fought and died for their land. They also have fought against ISIS, and they also vote Republican here in the States, which is admirable in my opinion.

Persians don't want the Kurds to have independence because it might embolden independence movement of several ethnics like the Balochies, Kurds, and so on. Also Persians have more interest in annexing Southern Iraq region, which holds large amounts of oil, and to have Shia holy sites, they could care less about Kurdistan.

I think Iranians should change their foreign policy, if they don't want Israel from taking over everything. Balochies have been fighting for their independence, for a long time as well.

The way I see it, I think people should forget about tribalism, and embrace each other in the Middle East, like how we in the liberal West have been doing, as simple as that. Multiculturalism for Middle East.

[catgeorge]

They're all basically animals - Kurdistan declares independance or some basic rights and Turks will declare war. Not even Albania is this backward

[Babak]

You keep forgetting that many people will have to die in order for there to be an independent state. Especially in between 3 dangerous nations. For Iran, it probably won't happen and same with turkey. Iraq is more likely.

[Babak]

Saudis are still around.



Erdogan needs to be replaced.



But many Kurds have fought and died for their land. They also have fought against ISIS, and they also vote Republican here in the States, which is admirable in my opinion.



I think Iranians should change their foreign policy, if they don't want Israel from taking over everything. Balochies have been fighting for their independence,for a long time as well.

The way I see it, I think people should forget about tribalism, and embrace each other in the Middle East, like how we in the liberal West have been doing, as simple as that. Multiculturalism for Middle East.

Out of all the ethnic groups in Iran, balochis are the dominant ethnic group seeking for independence. Iran is already a multi-cultural natiom btw, in fact, the Achaemind-persians are the reason why multi-culturism exists at all.

[StonyArabia]

Saudis are still around.

Saudi Arabia is powerful but in a different way. In some ways Saudi Arabia supports Kurdistan, due to it's largely Sunni population, which can be used to confine Shia Arabs and Shia Iran. However they largely don't care about the Kurdish issues. Saudi Arabia also is for Iraq's unity, because it does not want the Shia Arab regions to be annexed to Iran. Saudi Arabia is well seen in the Western regions of Iraq.

Erdogan needs to be replaced.

Erdogan is well liked in the Arab world. He is also very well seen in the Sunni Arab regions of Iraq, especially Mosul. Many Sunni Arab tribes have allied with Turkey, and not mention they have welcomed the Turkish forces, rather than the Iraqi army, which is full of Shia Arabs for example. It seems the Turks keep voting for him.

But many Kurds have fought and died for their land. They also have fought against ISIS, and they also vote Republican here in the States, which is admirable in my opinion.

I am not against Kurdish independence, as long they don't expand on Arab tribal lands, or take Kirkuk, which is historically a multicultural city. Many people have fought ISIS, even Gulf nations have fought ISIS, and many Sunni Arab tribes fought against ISIS as well.

I think Iranians should change their foreign policy, if they don't want Israel from taking over everything. Balochies have been fighting for their independence,for a long time as well.

The Balochi situation is slightly different from the Kurdish one, because the Balochi lands are not historically disputed like in the case of Kurds. Despite Pakistan, Iran, and Afghanistan don't want to give them independence, especially Pakistan due to natural resources. Iran does not to give independence also. Balochis are interestingly related to Kurds, but have just expanded southwards in ancient times and intermingled with the native South Asians like the Barhui

The way I see it, I think people should forget about tribalism, and embrace each other in the Middle East, like how we in the liberal West have been doing, as simple as that. Multiculturalism for Middle East.

That will take a long time, but it will eventually change when enough blood is shed. Middle Easterners are not yet pacified