Would you like to speak some celtic tounge?

[Dandelion]

I'm not sure if the Scots would agree to that. It would hurt the distinctiveness of the Scottish identity. It'd basically just be telling them "your language is just an Irish dialect". Look at the Balkans at how Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, and Montenegrin are considered different languages even though they are much closer to each other than Irish and Scottish are.

Their standard languages are based off the same dialect of their continuum too, Shtokavian. It leads to funny situations in BiH.



Three times exactly the same.

But I bet some dialects are distinct enough. It's hard to change a standard language, however, especially if it's more refined and polished.

[Mingle]

Their standard languages are based off the same dialect of their continuum too, Shtokavian. It leads to funny situations in BiH.



Three times exactly the same.

But I bet some dialects are distinct enough. It's hard to change a standard language, however, especially if it's more refined and polished.

Standard Serbian, Bosnian, etc. aren't different dialects. They are all just different accents based off the same Dubrovnik dialect of Shtokavian, comparable to different accents in USA. It'd be more like comparing the Standard Dutch spoken in Belgium vs the one spoken in the Netherlands. The different varieties of Standard Serbo-Croatian aren't distinct enough to be called dialects. The native dialects in Serbia, Bosnia, & Montenegro have a fair few differences and are probably more comparable to the different English dialects in the UK, or Flemish vs Brabantish vs Hollandish.

If Croatia wanted, I guess they could become more distinct from the rest by standardizing Chakavian as it is closer to Slovene than to Standard Serbo-Croatian. They are probably not that nationalistic though and see the advantages of speaking Standard Serbo-Croatian.

The picture above forgot the Montenegrin language Though I think if they reached a compromise to call their language "Shtokavian language", then they might be more okay with accepting that they all speak the same dialect of the same language. Right now, it looks a bit ridiculous. I've seen many pics like the one you showed me.

[Mingle]

I feel the same way about Sanskrit and Latin. Resurrecting these languages would not be impossible. The claim that they cannot be spoken languages is complete nonsense.

There are many speakers of Latin, Sanskrit, Ancient Greek, etc. alive today in 2017. The only thing is that they're a couple of individuals rather than millions of folk.

The problem is, in many instances, Irish is being forced on the younger generation of Irish the same way English was in the past to beat the Gaelic out of them (through corporal punishment). This has caused a backlash against Irish. The Republic of Ireland should make the revival of Irish a top priority and institute pedagogical reforms. Media proliferation should be a part of this multi-lateral approach.

I've heard stuff like jobs requiring you to speak some Irish and the boring Irish classes that don't get put to use later turn people off. If there's a 99% chance you won't learn Irish, then you won't be very sympathetic to the idea of learning it, and just see it as a waste of time. And then if you don't learn it, then you'd be pissed at jobs that require you to know it when you and almost everyone you know can't speak it. I think they should ease up on that a bit, but still keep Irish mandatory in schools as that's the only way they'll learn it. Plenty of people learn dead languages individually (mainly cause of a personal interest). There are a lot of flaws in the way that Irish is being promoted in Ireland. Cause getting it as a very spoken language isn't an unrealistic goal.

[Grace O'Malley]

Kate Bush singing in Irish.

[Iloko]

Irish sounds cool..like the stuff of legends

[AL00]

It's such a pity that these old and beutiful languages are disappearing ,people in celtic regions should keep their cultural heritage

[Grace O'Malley]

I'm not sure if the Scots would agree to that. It would hurt the distinctiveness of the Scottish identity. It'd basically just be telling them "your language is just an Irish dialect". Look at the Balkans at how Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, and Montenegrin are considered different languages even though they are much closer to each other than Irish and Scottish are.

It is just an Irish dialect though. The Scots know this. It's basically a Dalradian connection. Many Scottish clans trace their ancestry back to Ireland.

[JohnSmith]

I thought there are places in Brittany in France that still speak some celtic tongue?

[Mingle]

It is just an Irish dialect though. The Scots know this. It's basically a Dalradian connection. Many Scottish clans trace their ancestry back to Ireland.

I'm aware. But saying that Scottish is an Irish dialect might be seen as deligitimizing their identity. Calling it an Irish dialect could imply that the Scots are an Irish subgroup rather than a distinct ethnicity. While one can argue that is true (it was true once but not really anymore), it isn't an argument that would sit well with the Scots.

Croats and Serbs are distinct ethnic groups but they follow the same standardized register, so a similar case could be worked here with Scottish and Irish, but Scottish Gaelic is already standardized and taught in a few Scottish schools, so it would be harder to do that. But it is achievable since the language is still very much spoken by a tiny minority. I wonder what the standardized register would be in both countries though. Would it just be a mix of Scottish Gaelic, Irish, and a few other dialects into one new standardized register? Or what?

[Mingle]

I thought there are places in Brittany in France that still speak some celtic tongue?

I think like 4% of Brittany speaks the Celtic tongue known as Breton. And they are mostly old people.