View Poll Results: Would you want to learn some celtic language?

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  • No, I would not want to.

    5 17.24%
  • Scottish.

    10 34.48%
  • Irish standard.

    13 44.83%
  • Some distinct irish dialect.

    4 13.79%
  • Manx.

    2 6.90%
  • Welsh.

    6 20.69%
  • Breton.

    4 13.79%
  • Cornish.

    4 13.79%
  • Other, some modern dialect or dead language.

    3 10.34%
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Thread: Would you like to speak some celtic tounge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art23 View Post
    Who are Celts ? The typical cliché is that Celts are exclusively those in Ireland, Scotland and Brittany, completely disregarding other Celts. I speak French, that's actually the most widely spoken language by "Celts", since most Celts lived in the territory of modern France.
    The thread is about Celtic languages and all the Celtic languages have been included. There are many threads on Celts here and various opinions on the subject.

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    I'm sure you're aware Art23 that French is a Latin language. If the French were still speaking Gaulish then that would be great.

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    Grace I know that French is a Latin language. Just trying to think outside the box. Celtic languages nowadays do not necessary correspond to Celts.

    From what I have heard, Celtic languages seem rather difficult to understand. Words are so long. Or maybe I am to used to Germanic, Latin and Slavic languages ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art23 View Post
    Grace I know that French is a Latin language. Just trying to think outside the box. Celtic languages nowadays do not necessary correspond to Celts.

    From what I have heard, Celtic languages seem rather difficult to understand. Words are so long. Or maybe I am to used to Germanic, Latin and Slavic languages ?
    Celts are Celts because they speak a Celtic language. Gaulish would have been originally from Proto-Celtic so is on the same tree as Irish and Welsh.



    I'm not sure what you mean about Celtic languages today not corresponding to the Celts. Could you please explain? Thanks

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    I would like to be able to speak Celtiberian, Gallaecian or Lusitanian language since those are languages that we still do not know much about it. We know per example that "daughter" in Celtiberian was duater, which is still strikingly similar to the modern version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean about Celtic languages today not corresponding to the Celts. Could you please explain? Thanks
    I assume you are aware of the fact that ancient Celts have not left any written sources and that firstly they appeared somewhere around the Alps, only later migrating to France and British Isles. So the question remains open how much modern Celtic languages correspond to ancient Celts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art23 View Post
    I assume you are aware of the fact that ancient Celts have not left any written sources and that firstly they appeared somewhere around the Alps, only later migrating to France and British Isles. So the question remains open how much modern Celtic languages correspond to ancient Celts.
    Well you might find this study interesting. Gaulish is of course connected to Irish and Welsh. When you are saying Celts just appeared somewhere around the Alps you are most likely talking about La Tčne culture. Celtic languages are known to have been spoken in many areas before La Tčne so I don't think that is the origin of the Celtic people.

    Indo-European is the largest and best-documented language family in the world, yet the reconstruction of the Indo-European tree, first proposed in 1863, has remained controversial. Complications may include ascertainment bias when choosing the linguistic data, and disregard for the wave model of 1872 when attempting to reconstruct the tree. Essentially analogous problems were solved in evolutionary genetics by DNA sequencing and phylogenetic network methods, respectively. We now adapt these tools to linguistics, and analyze Indo-European language data, focusing on Celtic and in particular on the ancient Celtic language of Gaul (modern France), by using bilingual Gaulish–Latin inscriptions. Our phylogenetic network reveals an early split of Celtic within Indo-European. Interestingly, the next branching event separates Gaulish (Continental Celtic) from the British (Insular Celtic) languages, with Insular Celtic subsequently splitting into Brythonic (Welsh, Breton) and Goidelic (Irish and Scottish Gaelic). Taken together, the network thus suggests that the Celtic language arrived in the British Isles as a single wave (and then differentiated locally), rather than in the traditional two-wave scenario (“P-Celtic” to Britain and “Q-Celtic” to Ireland). The phylogenetic network furthermore permits the estimation of time in analogy to genetics, and we obtain tentative dates for Indo-European at 8100 BC ± 1,900 years, and for the arrival of Celtic in Britain at 3200 BC ± 1,500 years. The phylogenetic method is easily executed by hand and promises to be an informative approach for many problems in historical linguistics.



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    I'd like to learn Cornish and Irish.

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