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    If sea levels continue to rise how will some low-lying European nations survive and cope?
    There's a sea level rise map generator here which shows sea level rise upto 14 meters.
    I think we would defend our lands from rising sea levels, but just how far could we go until we were able to defend it no more?
    And do you think we can reverse sea level rise, and what of potential refugees?
    Would there be mass movements of Dutch to surrounding countries or would Eastern English flee to the rest, creating a smaller and yet more over-crowded England?

    What are your views?

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    Nah it is not going to rise and we have plenty of dikes and dams so..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    Nah it is not going to rise and we have plenty of dikes and dams so..
    Do you see the Netherlands embarking on any programs of expansion? With such a large population in relation to land area wouldn't expanding out a bit into the North Sea do some good?

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    If the seas were to rise a few meters, then I predict mass migrations of people to other places. It would prove far to expensive to erect affective sea walls to hold back the ocean. If there were a breach in the defense, the results would be catastrophic.
    New lands in the East will become more livable as the Northern taiga thaws releasing even more CO2 and CH4 into the atmosphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodeagle View Post
    If the seas were to rise a few meters, then I predict mass migrations of people to other places. It would prove far to expensive to erect affective sea walls to hold back the ocean. If there were a breach in the defense, the results would be catastrophic.
    New lands in the East will become more livable as the Northern taiga thaws releasing even more CO2 and CH4 into the atmosphere.
    Lucky for Russia, but not so for the Netherlands, Eastern England, Northern German or Denmark.
    Russia would perhaps allow people to emigrate to Siberia but it would upset the balance with a new mass migration of Europeans, especially Slavs and Germanics to Siberia.
    Like the native Americans have a connection to there land, that exists in Europe also, a love of one's country and all its little perks and places.

    The Netherlands already has a lot of defences, but Germany and Eastern England aren't so well prepared.
    If a large area of Eastern England were to become submerged I could see Western England basically becoming a large string of London-sized cities, a terrible thing to happen.
    Scotland and Wales would also warm up and maybe areas of the Highlands and Cambrians would become more fertile and better for settlement. Although they're not cold exactly they aren't very well populated due to poor soils mainly.

    I think a lot of climate refugees would flee to higher ground, but areas such as Eastern England and large areas of the Netherlands are just too big to let the sea take, but then also are big enough to make the cost of defending such a area phenomenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celtabria View Post
    Lucky for Russia, but not so for the Netherlands, Eastern England, Northern German or Denmark.
    Russia would perhaps allow people to emigrate to Siberia but it would upset the balance with a new mass migration of Europeans, especially Slavs and Germanics to Siberia.
    Like the native Americans have a connection to there land, that exists in Europe also, a love of one's country and all its little perks and places.

    The Netherlands already has a lot of defences, but Germany and Eastern England aren't so well prepared.
    If a large area of Eastern England were to become submerged I could see Western England basically becoming a large string of London-sized cities, a terrible thing to happen.
    Scotland and Wales would also warm up and maybe areas of the Highlands and Cambrians would become more fertile and better for settlement. Although they're not cold exactly they aren't very well populated due to poor soils mainly.

    I think a lot of climate refugees would flee to higher ground, but areas such as Eastern England and large areas of the Netherlands are just too big to let the sea take, but then also are big enough to make the cost of defending such a area phenomenal.
    Rising sea levels would have devastating affects on everyone.
    Society may become so splintered through war and hardship that roving hordes of European people may not have any other choice than to seek new and higher places in foreign lands.

    Countries affected could also band together and create a new nation with the money that they would be throwing away at sea walls. I am sure that there are a few nations that would be willing to sell off some of their property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodeagle View Post
    Rising sea levels would have devastating affects on everyone.
    Society may become so splintered through war and hardship that roving hordes of European people may not have any other choice than to seek new and higher places in foreign lands.

    Countries affected could also band together and create a new nation with the money that they would be throwing away at sea walls. I am sure that there are a few nations that would be willing to sell off some of their property.
    Yes, new Germanic nations and ethnicities might emerge in Northern Europe where people fleeing from drowned areas settled.
    There would perhaps be emigration to America, Canada and Australia as well as overspill into non-white countries and areas. I think your right about Russia though, along with a warmer Scandinavia it would house a lot of displaced peoples probably.

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    The lagoon of Venice, part of the Padanian Flat, the Netherlands, Tallinn, Malmo, Glasgow and Edimburgh and part of Peloponnesus will disappear, and this must not happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampire of Venice View Post
    The lagoon of Venice, part of the Padanian Flat, the Netherlands, Tallinn, Malmo, Glasgow and Edimburgh and part of Peloponnesus will disappear, and this must not happen.
    And much of Eastern England and Northern Germany and Denmark. It would be a disaster for both our countries and ethnicities as any refugees from these areas would flee to other areas.
    Venetians fleeing to other areas of Italy or Eastern English to Western England is alright, but if you had the Dutch for example migrating to Scotland, Belarus and Indonesia the Dutch intermarriage with the native ethnicities would change those cultures. Its the same for any migrant group, the more closely related the better, but in such times I think people would flee to wherever they could.

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    This satellite photo shows the haze (industrial pollution) coming upr from China, being captured in the Jet Stream, passing over Japan into the Arctic Circle. I then comes back down to Slaska / Canada, eastward to the Northeast coast, out over the Atlantic, into the Arctic again, over the Isles of the Brits, and on into the Eurasia continent.

    China has, to date, no industrial pollution regulations. These pollutants come out of China daily, steadily circling the Northern Hemisphere. I daresay this is the main contributing factor for the Arctic glaciers melting and breaking up at a much faster rate than the Antarctica continent.

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