Erdogan to Kurds: I will starve you to death

[Arduti]

A people need a land to call their own. As long as they don't facilitate violence and unrest in neighbouring nations, I see no problem.

The USA armed the Kurds for exactly that reason.

And what's the difference between a Euro-drawn border and an American-drawn border?

Enough with the narrative that the USA is "simply allowing for Kurdish sovereignty" ... like they allowed for Iraqi sovereignty? The "observation of Iraqi sovereignty" that led to the Shia campaign against Iraq's Sunni minority which then led to their emigration from Iraq, into Syria, and the creation of ISIS?

American policies are proving to be more leftist in nature, which means they're more destructive, like all "sovereignty" policies, because it validates constant war.

[StonyArabia]

Or one could see it as the British and French stealing Levantine and Arab lands, divvying them up then complicating matters more by giving some to another people, supposedly historic owners, just to clear their consciences.

Maybe it's time to let the people who live in this region resolve their own border issues. A strong European response would be to allow no refugees so that all people from that region are forced stand strong or be eliminated.

It's the nature of humanity in the past. Our peoples have already been through it in the last 200 years. It was a painful process.

The British nor the French had right to colonize other people's land and give it willy and nilly for a historical guilt that the Levantine Arabs had nothing to do with. Not to mention how the Anglo-Americans and the British destroyed Iraq for the sake for Israel also, because it was the only Arab nation capable of standing to it and even to the West, and thus the Americans tricked Iraq to go to war with Iran, and kept slowly weakening it.

The refugees are the problem created by the British and Anglo-Americans

[frankhammer]

Except the fact that the new borders are drawn by the same guys plus Americans.

Outsiders really need to keep out of the melee. The Americans are too greedy for the petrodollar. Shame on them.

The British nor the French had right to colonize other people's land and give it willy and nilly for a historical guilt that the Levantine Arabs had nothing to do with. Not to mention how the Anglo-Americans and the British destroyed Iraq for the sake for Israel also, because it was the only Arab nation capable of standing to it and even to the West, and thus the Americans tricked Iraq to go to war with Iran, and kept slowly weakening it.

The refugees are the problem created by the British and Anglo-Americans

That may be so. Again, shameful but the people need to stay and fight for their land. Not run.

[Arduti]

Israel stole Arab lands. I hope they will get it.

The unity I suggest includes Israel and excludes all Western and Far-Eastern nations.
Israel's problem is its attachment to Christians and the West.
Muslims' problem is their new attachment to the East and long-standing attachment to the West.

[magyar_lány]

The unity I suggest includes Israel and excludes all Western and Far-Eastern nations.
Israel's problem is its attachment to Christians and the West.
Muslims' problem is their new attachment to the East and long-standing attachment to the West.

Interesting idea, but it sounds good.

[Albobalboa]

It's obvious when reading the arguments from Turks, Arabs and Iranians that this isn't about keeping some imaginary peace, it's about maintaining power and territory.

I can't see a scenario where Kurds in the long term don't get their country. They're cucking Turks in Turkey and I won't even get started on how they've carved their piece out of Syria already.

It will literally be a dream scenario for the US. Not having to solely rely on Israel as a middle eastern ally will probably feel like a major orgasm for the US political elite. 20million+ Kurds ready to bust nuts on Arabs and Turks in the area if the geopolitical climate requires it. Some nice war scenarios can be made with an independent Kurdistan in the picture.

[StonyArabia]

It's obvious when reading the arguments from Turks, Arabs and Iranians that this isn't about keeping some imaginary peace, it's about maintaining power and territory.

I can't see a scenario where Kurds in the long term don't get their country. They're cucking Turks in Turkey and I won't even get started on how they've carved their piece out of Syria already.

It will literally be a dream scenario for the US. Not having to solely rely on Israel as a middle eastern ally will probably feel like a major orgasm for the US political elite. 20million+ Kurds ready to bust nuts on Arabs and Turks in the area if the geopolitical climate requires it. Some nice war scenarios can be made with an independent Kurdistan in the picture.

LOL, the U.S has come out against their independence and only Israel support them.Israel does not support the Kurds out of care or humanitarian reason but for it's own interest and geopolitical dominance in the region.Israel's support is more of solidarity than anything that will truly materialize. Israel can have nearby proxy. They are being blockaded even by the Iranians. Yes the Kurds will be more of loyal proxy and ally then even the Gulf nations, who tend not be reliable allies. Also the U.S will not risk losing it's Turkish allies who are reliable allies especially against Russia. Turkey is used by the U.S to keep Russia in check and the U.S uses Turkey as base.

learn politics and geopolitics.

[Gleaves]

God bless Sultan Erdogan,

I wish him best of luck in dealing with Kurdish pests.

Have you ever heard of a Kurdish inventor, artist, poet , philosopher ? Nation of 50 million that produced nothing throughout its whole existence does not deserve state to begin with.

[Wadaad]

You know it was actually the Kurds who did the on the ground deeds in the Armenian genocide? Turks were the overlords and they sic the kurdish fedayeen on unarmed Armenian civilians.

Kurdistan should pay for the Armenian genocide with the Kikuk oil fields. Maybe then. They can understand the problem

[Albobalboa]

LOL, the U.S has come out against their independence and only Israel support them.Israel does not support the Kurds out of care or humanitarian reason but for it's own interest and geopolitical dominance in the region.Israel's support is more of solidarity than anything that will truly materialize. Israel can have nearby proxy. They are being blockaded even by the Iranians. Yes the Kurds will be more of loyal proxy and ally then even the Gulf nations, who tend not be reliable allies. Also the U.S will not risk losing it's Turkish allies who are reliable allies especially against Russia. Turkey is used by the U.S to keep Russia in check and the U.S uses Turkey as base.

learn politics and geopolitics.

I don't care about temporary shit like blockades and trade wars. There are tens of millions of Kurds right there and they are pretty damn solid, sure as fuck won't be removed militarily. Worse conditions are likely to lead to higher birth rates, which will in the end lead to an independent Kurdish state.

Kurds are about 25% of the population in Iraq, 10% in Iran, 25% in Turkey, and in Syria they've already carved their territory. Such huge amounts won't be stopped by blockades. For example the Palestinians have been blockaded like crazy, that just made them procreate more as it kept them backwards.

Turkey is an ally but the Americans will keep pushing for an independent Kurdistan, it literally costs them nothing and would be great for their interests.