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Why include Ancestral North Eurasian admixture ?
It's basically saying no pure Mongoloid exist and it's highest in the predominant Mongoloid Selkups, Kets who are mixed with Russians to a extend, the funny thing is this component is even higher than some Caucasoid populations of North Africa and Entreans who are the most Caucasoid of East Africans have none.
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Northern Siberia = AKA " Indigenous small-numbered peoples of the North, Siberia and the Far East "
All of them which are Mongoloid ethnic group with exception of Finland who are not Mongoloid but have Mongoloid DNA and a few Mongoloid/Caucasoid group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indige...d_the_Far_East
Aleuts (алеуты): Kamchatka Krai - 700
Alyutors (алюторцы): Kamchatka Krai
Chelkans (челканцы)
Chukchis (чукчи): Chukotka Autonomous Okrug, Magadan Oblast, Kamchatka Krai - 15,767
Chulyms (чулымцы), Tomsk Oblast, Krasnoyarsk Krai - 656
Chuvans (чуванцы): Chukotka Autonomous Okrug, Magadan Oblast
Dolgans (долганы): Krasnoyarsk Krai, Sakha Republic
Enets (*) (энцы) (Yenets, Russian plural: Entsy, obsolete: Yenisei Samoyeds, Yenisei Ostyak, Kets): Krasnoyarsk Krai
Eskimo (Siberian Yupik, Inuit) (эскимосы): Chukotka Autonomous Okrug
Naukan
Evenks (эвенки)
Evens (эвены)
Itelmens (ительмены): Kamchatka Krai, Magadan Oblast
Kamchadals (камчадалы, a general term for mixed population of Kamchatka Peninsula): Kamchatka Krai
Kereks (кереки): Chukotka Autonomous Okrug
Kets (кеты)
Khanty (ханты): (Old Russian Term: Ostyaks), Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug,
Koryaks (коряки): Kamchatka Krai, Chukotka Autonomous Okrug, Magadan Oblast
Kumandins (кумандинцы)
Mansi (манси), (Old Russian term: Voguls), Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug,
Nanai (нанайцы)
Negidals (негидальцы)
Nenets (*) (Russian plural: Nentsy, old Russian name Samoyeds) (ненцы):Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, Krasnoyarsk Krai, Khanty–Mansi Autonomous Okrug, Arkhangelsk Oblast, Komi Republic
Nganasans (Tavgi) (нганасаны): Krasnoyarsk Krai
Nivkhs (нивхи)
Oroks (ороки)
Orochs (орочи)
Sami (old Russian name Lopar, i.e., Lapp) (саамы, саами): Murmansk Oblast - 1,991
Selkups (селькупы)
Shors (шорцы)
Soyots (сойоты)
Taz (тазы)
Telengits (теленгиты)
Teleuts (телеуты)
Tofalars or Tofa (тофалары или тофы)
Tubalars (тубалары)
Tozhu (тувинцы-тоджинцы), a subgroup of the Tuvans: Tyva republic
Udege (удэгейцы)
Ulchs (ульчи)
Veps (*) (вепсы): Republic of Karelia, Leningrad Oblast
Yukaghirs (юкагиры): Sakha Republic, Chukotka Autonomous Okrug, Magadan Oblast
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Nowhere close to that
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" A people similar to MA-1 were important genetic contributors to Native Americans, Europeans, Central and South Asians, and minor contribution to East Eurasians. [10] Lazaridis et al. (2016) notes "a cline of ANE ancestry across the east-west extent of Eurasia."[11] According to a 2016 study, it was found that the global maximum of ANE ancestry occurs in modern-day Kets, Mansi, Native Americans, Nganasans and Yukaghirs.[3] "
One of the highest ANE in the world and almost all of them have 100% East Asian DNA with only few with 0.1% and 0.5% European admixture
Another Siberian Mongoloids like Nganasans are the Yukaghirs also showed 100% East Asian admixture
Here is ANE in Mongoloids in East Asia Oroqen have it 9.24% and and Daur 7.07%, they are all 100% East Eurasian genetically.
Oroqen have one of the highest Siberian component a DNA that reaches 40-60% in Mongolian 30-55% in Koreans. In this study West Mongolians who have different degree of Turkic ancestry shows west Eurasian admixture, it makes sense when they are several Turkic ethnic group residing there.
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i think most of them were from mongolia but i guess some of them might have been immigrants to other countries, but i'm sure they were all ethnic mongols. i never had access to their gedmatch kits, i don't even think 23andme allows you to add contacts to share ancestry data anymore. yeah it is probably from minor admix with iranic or tocharian indo european peoples.
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Without including this ANE component ( Ancient North Eurasian ) which is proven to exist in very high percentages in pure Mongoloid populations showing 0% Caucasoid admixture. Therefore the real admixture the Caucasoid admixture in these Mongol tribes are generally only small with exception of western part of Mongolia.
Mongolian DNA
Dark yellow: East Asian
Light yellow: Siberian
Dark Purple: East Siberian,
Light purple: Chuckhi, Eskimo
Caucasoid DNA
Blue: Europeans
Green: West Asian
Dark Green: South Asian
Mongoloid DNA in Buryat 88-96%
Caucasoid DNA in Buryat 4-12% (2-8% if you don't want to include South Asian as Caucasoid )
Mongoloid DNA in Tuvans 85 - 92.5%
Caucasoid DNA in Tuvans 8.5 -15% (7% - 12% if you don't want to include South Asians )
Mongols from Mongolia
East Mongols
Mongoloid DNA in East Mongolian 95-99%
Caucasoid DNA in East Mongolian 1-5%
West Mongols DNA
Mongoloid DNA in West Mongolian 83-86%
Caucasoid DNA in West Mongolian 14-17% ( very negligible South Asians )
We shouldn't be surprised with west Mongolian showing such DNA. There are Kazakhs and other Turkified or Mongolified tribes there.
Also a Kazakh who is 70% Mongoloid on average and you mix with a 100% Mongoloid of course you're going to produce roughly 85% Mongoloid. Like many African americans who is 66% Black, you mix with another pure 100% Black you're still going to get 17% Caucasoid
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