Winged Hussars, "Spartans" of cavalry

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Wrong. Serbia had not Serbian origin knights (in western sense) , just hired western mercenaries.
Dusan was too timid to wage real war in battlefields. He had many sieges against cities or castles, but he always carefully avoided battles and battlefields.

Stop living in your western autistic ownlife. There was a knights also in other parts of world. Westerners are not God-gived to be a superior (which prooved many battles).

So yeah. Serbs had their knights. This is a fact.

[Peterski]

At Vienna 1683 took place one of the largest cavalry charges in history. 20,000 cavalry - spearheaded by 3,000 Hussars - charged downhill along a front of 4,000 meters (4 km):

[cosmoo]

Hussars are not related to heavy cavalry. Serbians had not heavy cavalry by Western sense. Serbians (similar to other orthodox countries) had not knights not even knightly culture. Some hired foreign mercenary knights in Serbia can't supersede that fact.

No, you are quite wrong. Medieval Serbia and Bosnia did have heavy cavalry that was, in fact, among best in Europe. Your westerners already started developing a preference for fighting on foot by that time (especially English knights).
If you do not believe me, consult history. Byzantines had great preferences for Serbian knights, and heavy cavalry unit under Novak Grebostrek played main role in crushing Catalan Company which was marauding through the Byzantium. In fact, such was his success that they organized him a triumph trough the Constantinople- something usually only conferred to those of non-foreign ancestry.
Do not even get me started on how Serbian knights mowed down western "knights" at Nicopolis (they allied with Ottomans because your nigger-king Sigismund attacked weakened Serbia immediately after Battle of Kosovo, and failed at that). Or how they cut through Mongol ranks with utter ease in Battle of Ankara three times, and Timur just watched in awe and later confessed great admiration for them.

[Peterski]

[Stears]

No, you are quite wrong. Medieval Serbia and Bosnia did have heavy cavalry that was, in fact, among best in Europe. Your westerners already started developing a preference for fighting on foot by that time (especially English knights).
If you do not believe me, consult history. Byzantines had great preferences for Serbian knights, and heavy cavalry unit under Novak Grebostrek played main role in crushing Catalan Company which was marauding through the Byzantium. In fact, such was his success that they organized him a triumph trough the Constantinople- something usually only conferred to those of non-foreign ancestry.
Do not even get me started on how Serbian knights mowed down western "knights" at Nicopolis (they allied with Ottomans because your nigger-king Sigismund attacked weakened Serbia immediately after Battle of Kosovo, and failed at that). Or how they cut through Mongol ranks with utter ease in Battle of Ankara three times, and Timur just watched in awe and later confessed great admiration for them.

For big cavalry, you need horses, which are very rare and expensive in a mountanious country like Bosnia or Serbia. You had not heavy cavalry (knights) in the Western sense. Medieval England had not many knights. Catalan Company had not serious cavalry due to the fact they mostly arrived with ships. Again, there were not knights in Serbia. Serbia was always one of the little negligible puppet states in the gravitation of kingdom of Hungary. The best example is Dusan, who always avoided any battles carefully.

[Peterski]

Hussars are legacy of late 14th/early 15th century Serbian heavy cavalry mercenaries serving in Poland (who set ridiculously high standards), as even Poles themselves acknowledge.

Wrong, Serbian Gusars were not heavy cavalry because they didn't use armour.

The evolution of hussars into heavy cavalry took place in Poland-Lithuania.

"Gusar light cavalry forces were part of the medieval Serbian military":

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Serbian_army

[Dandelion]

About one of few defeats suffered by Winged Hussars during their golden age:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4682028

One of those drummers is how I imagine Lissyi to look like, btw.

[Peterski]

One of those drummers is how I imagine Lissyi to look like, btw.

By the way in reality that charge into mud did not take place. Also that battle lasted for a few weeks, not two days as in the movie. It was a siege of Polish fortified camp by more numerous Cossacks not an open field battle.

But good movie anyway.

[Aspirin]

Vienna, 1683

[Podlachian]

One of those drummers is how I imagine Lissyi to look like, btw.

Probably the one, who was a Scottman in reality, Krzywonos = Cameron.