Should we separate the Catalunya section from the Spanish one on TA?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Catalonia is not an independent state, just an autonomous region. To be coherent you would have to create a separate section for each potential independent state in Europe.

[catgeorge]

The future of Europe heading back to City State of 3,000 years ago.

As Mark Twain once said - History never repeats it only rhymes.

I am just wondering who is going to be next - but I think Spain will not keep quiet with this...they will make Catalonia earn it.

[Ilma]

Catalonia is not an independent state, just an autonomous region. To be coherent you would have to create a separate section for each potential independent state in Europe.

That map isnt good, there is Brittany but nott Normandy ?!

Edit : Ah my bad, the second is really better !

[catgeorge]

..and that map is being generous to Germany.

[Sizzo]

All this particularity is simply dementia, a kind of infantile disease. Concepts like Italia, Iberia/Hispania, Gallia, Germania, Britannia etc. are sacred. Have we come to the point of shuffling History with business selfishness? Quod Iuppiter avertat!

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

If Spain were to be divided in different independent regions, it would look like this. Instead of being a major economic player in Europe, the Iberian peninsula would just be a conglomerate of several micro-states.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Catalonia is not an independent state, just an autonomous region. To be coherent you would have to create a separate section for each potential independent state in Europe.

What about the French Basque Country too? The French Basques see themselves as culturally different to the rest of France. Do you think the Basque Country in France and the Basque Country in Spain would unite together (?) as they're both Basque clans, but they're just living on different sides of the Pyrenee Mountains between France, Andorra, and Spain.

Europeans (and non-Europeans too in various cultures across the planet) can be very clannish and they want to protect their own unique identities, languages, and cultures, hence the reasons (along with political and economical issues too) why they're seeking independence to self-govern their own territorial regions.

A Dutch person once wrote that forced unions placed upon different peoples always leads to tensions, disagreements, dictatorships and divides. People may get along more harmoniously and cooperate with each other better without a forced political union between them, and can even become friendly neighbours and allies.

Others have a different view of this though and will say, 'United we stand, divided we fall.'

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

What about the French Basque Country too? The French Basques see themselves as culturally different to the rest of France. Do you think the Basque Country in France and the Basque Country in Spain would unite together as they're both Basques?

Yes, Basque independents claim a portion of the French territory as well. Will this ever happen? Very unlikely.

[Dandelion]

..and that map is being generous to Germany.

Germany the undivided: according to every such map.

[Loki]

Catalonia is not an independent state, just an autonomous region. To be coherent you would have to create a separate section for each potential independent state in Europe.

Good maps (but the map confused North Ossetia with South Ossetia... it is the South that wants independence, not the North)

And yes I am aware of that, but you have to admit that Catalonia is the foremost issue at the moment, not the others. Maybe in a few years it could be Scotland again.