Should we separate the Catalunya section from the Spanish one on TA?

**~~Laberia~~** · 10-02-2017, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by catgeorge

The future of Europe heading back to City State of 3,000 years ago.

As Mark Twain once said - History never repeats it only rhymes.

I am just wondering who is going to be next - but I think Spain will not keep quiet with this...they will make Catalonia earn it.

Crete maybe?

**Loki** · 10-02-2017, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by catgeorge

..and that map is being generous to Germany.

Unification of the German principalities was the miracle of modern Europe, that has defined modern Europe. Unlike these other cases, Germans were one ethnic group, whose country was divided up between different princes.

Ülev · 10-02-2017, 11:21 AM

yes, I am ready to change my data, so pls add Catalunya flag

**Mikula** · 10-02-2017, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Viriato

If I can say something as a Czech and Moravian to the map - I dont ever heard about any Moravian separatism, there.
There are just an movements at Moravia, with a program to change unitar model of the Czech Republic into federation of historical lands (Bohemia, Moravia, Silesia), simillar to the model of "Bundesländer" what is used in Germany and Austria.
Todays model of regional division of the Czechia, does not corresponded with the historical division of 3 crown-lands

**Sebastianus Rex** · 10-02-2017, 11:56 AM

That's sounds like opportunism to increase the adhesion of Catalan members to the forum...yeah I admit it's probably a good business move that would increase the traffic of the website altough ethically deplorable imo.

**MinervaItalica** · 10-02-2017, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Viriato

Spoiler!

I doubt that in Sicily there is a strong nationalist tendency...

Same for Padania (a political invention with no cultural basis), which include Tuscany and Marche for example and those regions have zero nationalists

The strongest nationalists are in Lombardy, Alto Adige (not Trentino) and Veneto though they want more authonomy not to split from Italy (except maybe for Alto Adige) although the map marks them with non Italic names. I've my doubt about that map.

Insubria? Never heard any movement for that...

Liguria?!?!

**Kazimiera** · 10-02-2017, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

What do you think? Should Apricity move with the times, go with the current flow of happenings in the world?

Please don't put ideas in their heads! We will end up having 60 more subforums with no posts.

There was huge uproar about the creation of Crna Gora a year or two ago and it only has 27 threads. Most of the threads in this subsection were moved from other parts of the forum, which means the amount of threads created specifically for this subsection I can probably count on one hand.

EVERYONE wants their subsection but when it comes down to it, nobody is interested in posting there.

**MinervaItalica** · 10-02-2017, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by catgeorge

..and that map is being generous to Germany.

Spoiler!

It's impossible to see modern Germany from that map.

They really have had a lot of states...

...btw what is the red line?

Germany today is a federation not an unitary state.

**Lluna Plena** · 10-04-2017, 06:16 AM

Per a tots aquells que diuen que les imatges amb sang eran falses, la meva resposta és: no cal veure sang per que hi hagi violència. Els cops de porra, les empentes per les escales i les salvatges estirades de cabells no enganyen ningú...

**Finnish Swede** · 10-04-2017, 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by Viriato

That picture is ''hilarious''...atleast what comes to Samis. If Samis would ever become independece or having more autonomy position (they already have several extra rights vs Finns or Scadinavians in Northest parts of those countries...to be able to safe their culture and lifestyle)....their real area will be very small compare that map....being just in the northest corner of Scandinavia. Honestly less than 100 000 people will not even need more land. And they will/would never either get more. Problem/challenger is that their lifestyle (herd the reindeers) which needs lot of more land than they would do as a people. So atleast as long as they continue that, there are zero changes they could become independence.

But autonomy could also work some cases. Finland had all the time autonomy position as it was short period (100 years) in history part of Russia, Åland island has it now as part of Finland. Stronger autonomy position for Catalunya could solve the problem? Won't still happen as long as present leaders/goverments are in power (after last weekend).