Nordid Proper

[Hamlet]

Not enough indentation between nose and eyes, which, although it may be an artistic convention, occurs too often in ancient Greek art to be considered Nordic, notwithstanding that some Nordics do have the high bridge. In any case, the black curly ringlets of Greeks on vases tells me that Med is what they were at the time. Plus, seeing that most of this art is classical, the Nordic strain one gets strong hints of in the Iliad and Odyssey (e.g., the goddess Athene grabbing Achilles by the “golden hair”) would have largely been absorbed by that relatively post invasion date. But let me say that I firmly believe that the PIEs were Nords and probably quite identical to the EARLY (not later!) Tarim mummies. It’s wishful thinking that they looked like Putin and or Mussolini.

What do you mean by post-invasion date, Homeric tales are from Old Greece.

[Hamlet]

hallstatt is more med east nordid is the purest nordic

Well East Nordid isn't as it has CM but Corded Nordid - perhaps, though all Nordids are broadly Mediterranoid.

[JMack]

You agree though, I hope, that there are different types of Nordid and Mediterranid beyond pigmentation, right? A trained anthropologist should be able to tell the different between Gracile Mediterranids and East Nordids!

Yes. But some phenotypes overlap metrically, like Corded Nordid and Gracile-Med and Hallstatt-Nordid and Atlanto-Med.

[Hamlet]

Yes. But some phenotypes overlap metrically, like Corded Nordid and Gracile-Med and Hallstatt-Nordid and Atlanto-Med.

Not entirely, obviously.

[NSXD60]

What do you mean by post-invasion date, Homeric tales are from Old Greece.

Sorry, I inadvertently omitted "late" from "relatively late post invasion date", which means that hundreds of years after IEs had invaded Greece, their original racial distinctiveness was largely absorbed by the natives, but that in Homeric times there were still many individuals that resembled the conquerors.

[Arduti]

How then do you explain the fact that in older Greek tales, particular those of Homer, lots of the main characters tend to be blonde (or red) haired, that the Greek pantheon is significantly blonde, and that ancient Greek statues have blonde/red pigment traces for hair on them? To me, it seems clear that many of the statues would represent blonds, but just to humour me, assuming they were blonde, which Nordid type do they correspond best to?

Troyans/Trojans/Thracians (associated with Biblical Tiras)

I-haplogroups
Pre-Germanic.

Makes sense too given the Nordic negative depiction of Loki in their myths, who has been associated with Zeus.

[DarknessWin]

Also, what is more Mediterranid, Hallstatt or East Nordid?

Halstatts are more Med

[DarknessWin]

Anyway, back to the question, which Nordid type do the Ancient Greek statues most resemble?

This is not Nordid but Pontid Med

[Arduti]

This is not Nordid but Pontid Med

I agree with Hamlet, they look Nordic. Pre-Germanic I-haplogrouped. Best looking Nords IMO. Like this guy.

[DarknessWin]

How then do you explain the fact that in older Greek tales, particular those of Homer, lots of the main characters tend to be blonde (or red) haired, that the Greek pantheon is significantly blonde, and that ancient Greek statues have blonde/red pigment traces for hair on them? To me, it seems clear that many of the statues would represent blonds, but just to humour me, assuming they were blonde, which Nordid type do they correspond best to?

Again this theory ??? It called ART



Of course you can believe that Lions had blue hair in Ancient Greece.

Also dont forget that Ancient Greeks bleached their hair to lighten it because they believed light hair were more good looking



Ancient Greek statues belong to Pontid , DinaroMed, Alpine , AlpineMed, AtlantoMed types mixed with CM