E1b Y-DNA in Europe

[Böri]

Kosovo 47,5%
Albania 27,5%
Montenegro 27%
Bulgaria 23,5%
Macedonia 21,5%
Greece 21%
Serbia 15%
Portugal 14%
Romania 14%
Italy 13,5%
Bosnia 11,5% (9% in Bosniaks and Croats; but 17,5% in Serbs)


Red Sea origins & Neolithic expansion

Haplogroup E1b1b (formerly known as E3b) represents the last major direct migration from Africa into Europe. It is believed to have first appeared in the Horn of Africa approximately 26,000 years ago and dispersed to North Africa and the Near East during the late Paleolithic and Mesolithic periods. E-M78 and E-Z827 originated respectively at 20,000 years and 24,000 years. E1b1b lineages are closely linked to the diffusion of Afroasiatic languages.

Lazaridis et al. (2016) tested the first ancient DNA samples from the Mesolithic Natufian culture in Israel, possibly the world's oldest sedentary community, and found that the male individuals belonged either to haplogroups CT or E1b1 (including two E1b1b1b2 samples). These are to date the oldest known E1b1b individuals. The same haplogroups show up in Pre-Pottery Neolithic B Jordan, accompanied by new haplogroups (H2 and T).


Source: Eupedia

[Böri]

It's from farmers and agriculturalists from North Africa, Red Sea and Levantine coast who progressed around 5000 B.C. to south Europe obviously.
They left few to no impact on Russia, Siberia and Finland.

[Philip Latinowitz]

Hitler's haplogroup

[Dema]

Kosovo 47,5%
Albania 27,5%
Montenegro 27%
Bulgaria 23,5%
Macedonia 21,5%
Greece 21%
Serbia 15%
Portugal 14%
Romania 14%
Italy 13,5%
Bosnia 11,5% (9% in Bosniaks and Croats; but 17,5% in Serbs)


Red Sea origins & Neolithic expansion

Haplogroup E1b1b (formerly known as E3b) represents the last major direct migration from Africa into Europe. It is believed to have first appeared in the Horn of Africa approximately 26,000 years ago and dispersed to North Africa and the Near East during the late Paleolithic and Mesolithic periods. E-M78 and E-Z827 originated respectively at 20,000 years and 24,000 years. E1b1b lineages are closely linked to the diffusion of Afroasiatic languages.

Lazaridis et al. (2016) tested the first ancient DNA samples from the Mesolithic Natufian culture in Israel, possibly the world's oldest sedentary community, and found that the male individuals belonged either to haplogroups CT or E1b1 (including two E1b1b1b2 samples). These are to date the oldest known E1b1b individuals. The same haplogroups show up in Pre-Pottery Neolithic B Jordan, accompanied by new haplogroups (H2 and T).


Source: Eupedia

That is map of entire E1b, its obvious that it dominates in Africa and in some places like Somalia or Ethiopia can go up to 80%.


There is clade of E1b known as V13 that is much more exclusive to Europe...





Its origin is believed to be Balkan, but there is possibility of Levantine or North African origin also.

While its main expansion happened in Bronze Age with Indo-Europeans arriving from direction of Pontic Steppes....

So, R1a, R1b and V13 spread with IE.

[Böri]

Its origin is believed to be Balkan, but there is possibility of Levantine or North African origin also.

While its main expansion happened in Bronze Age with Indo-Europeans arriving from direction of Pontic Steppes....

So, R1a, R1b and V13 spread with IE.

E1b v13 was like G, it was the pre-Indo-European element. Indo Europeans were the R1b who later (end of Neolithic or some times later) assimilated the natives and imposed a language on them.
Original E1b or V13 should have had a Afro-Asiatic type language similar to what was spoken by Egyptian Pharoahs.

[Böri]

By the way I checked for Cyprus.
It appears 24% average E1b. Reportedly Greeks have 25 and Turkish from north 23%.
N is seen as difference in Cyprus beside Q etc.
Greeks are 0% N while Turkish Cypriots have 2% N. While Q is 0,5% in Greek Cypriots and 1% for Turkish ones. Not bad for Cypriots

[Jackson78]

Serbia 15%

Serbia have more E1b than this, 20% for sure.

[Böri]

Serbia have more E1b than this, 20% for sure.

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/europe...logroups.shtml
They give 15 for Serbia and 17,5 for Bosnian Serbs.

[Jackson78]

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/europe...logroups.shtml
They give 15 for Serbia and 17,5 for Bosnian Serbs.

Eupedia is not reliable source. Serbs from Serbia have around 20% or little more of E1b, while Bosnian Serbs have around 15%.

[Dema]

By the way I checked for Cyprus.
It appears 24% average E1b. Reportedly Greeks have 25 and Turkish from north 23%.
N is seen as difference in Cyprus beside Q etc.
Greeks are 0% N while Turkish Cypriots have 2% N. Not bad for Cypriots.

Not really, Neolithic Europe yielded mostly I1, I2 and G.

If V13 origin was Europe then it must have been some isolated tribe because its absent in Neolithic Europe except of few strange places like one Neolithic sample from Spanish Cave..


V13 origin is still unknown, but its 100% sure that it had Bronze Age expansion just as R1b and R1a.

Also look at V13 map that i posted its funny that Basque region does not have V13 and their language is indeed pre Indo-European.




V13 is just as Indo Euopean just as R1a and R1b. Its Bronze age invaders genociding European natives...


Hence why I1, which is found in Paleolithic and Neolithic Europe, which is formed 27500 years ago but has TMRCA only 4600 years.. Bronze age genocide..

Ofc V13 later also somewhat spread with Romans too... But that expansion is insignificant when in compare to IE one.