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    Default Donald Trump expected to abandon Iran nuclear deal next week

    Donald Trump is expected to withdraw his endorsement of the nuclear deal with Iran next week, leaving its survival uncertain and in the hands of a divided Congress.

    Adding to the mood of uncertainty hanging over Washington, Trump used a group photograph before a dinner with military leaders and their spouses to warn cryptically that the evening represented “the calm before the storm”.

    When asked by reporters what he meant, the president said: “You’ll find out,” leaving it unclear whether he was referring to impending military action, or whether Trump, a former TV reality show host, was simply creating tension for the sake of it.

    The US is in a nuclear standoff with North Korea, and tensions are likely to rise in the Gulf if Trump washes his hands of the nuclear agreement. There is also anticipation in Washington of retaliatory action for the deaths of three Green Berets in an ambush near the Niger-Mali border, believed to have been carried out by Islamic State.

    On Friday several media outlets confirmed what has been suspected in Washington and foreign capitals for some time: that Trump will overrule his top national security aides and will not certify the 2015 international nuclear deal with Iran, on the grounds that it does not serve US security interests.

    That would trigger a period of 60 days in which it would be up to a delicately balanced Congress whether to reimpose sanctions. A decision to do so could trigger a collapse of the deal and a return to a tense standoff in the Middle East over the Iranian nuclear programme.

    “The Iranian regime supports terrorism and exports violence and chaos across the Middle East,” Trump said at a White House meeting of US military leaders.

    “That is why we must put an end to Iran’s continued aggression and nuclear ambitions,” he added. “You will be hearing about Iran very shortly.”

    The statement was made as he sat alongside senior security officials, the most senior of whom have said repeatedly that Iran is abiding by the 2015 nuclear agreement.

    The defence secretary, James Mattis, said this week that staying with the deal, under which Iran accepted strict curbs on its nuclear programme in exchange for sanctions relief, was in US national security interests.

    The chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Gen Joseph Dunford, recently said that pulling out of the multilateral deal, which was signed by some of Washington’s closest allies, would affect US credibility and could hinder its ability to strike security agreements in the future.

    Trump’s secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, and national security adviser, HR McMaster, are both thought to have advised Trump not to withhold certification. The European signatories to the deal – the UK, France and Germany – have urged Trump to uphold it, and are focusing their energies on lobbying Congress not to reimpose sanctions, which could prove fatal to the agreement.

    The British embassy in Washington took the unusual step of lobbying for the deal on Twitter with a graphic showing its achievements. From the European perspective, the collapse of the agreement would not only have a substantial security impact, bringing another Middle East conflict closer, but could also have economic repercussions, forcing European companies such as Airbus, Total and the British solar power company Quercus to choose between doing business in Iran and the US.

    Business leaders who gathered for an Iran-Europe forum in Switzerland this week said they were prepared to do everything possible to salvage the deal in the event of a US withdrawal.

    A senior executive at a European multinational company, who asked to remain anonymous, said he expected the US president to decertify the deal but he believed that would not amount to the end of the agreement.

    “There is a lot of serious diplomacy by Europeans at all levels, from prime ministers to policymakers, to make sure the agreement would survive and there are talks of retaliatory legislation or protective legislations like the ones in place in the early 2000s,” the executive said.

    The non-certification of the Iran deal threatens to trigger a second nuclear standoff at a time when the US is already immersed in one with North Korea.

    That crisis has escalated recently with Pyongyang’s sixth nuclear test, a series of intermediate and intercontinental missile tests, and a war of words between the US president and North Korea’s dictator, Kim Jong-un.

    An expert on the North Korean weapons programme, Jeffrey Lewis of the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, expressed alarm that Trump’s warning of a coming storm could have been interpreted by the US’s adversaries in ways the president never considered.

    “This is the kind of idle threat that, made at the wrong time, could trigger an unexpected escalation on the Korean peninsula,” Lewis tweeted. “Please stop.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...n-nuclear-deal

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    Obama was a useless "president" who carried out mass murder in Syria in overthrow attempt at Assad. One of the only good things he did was the Iran Nuke deal.

    In 2007 and 2011, all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies assured us, “with high confidence,” that Iran did not have an atomic bomb program.

    Yet our folks forked over $50 billion for an Iranian show and tell to prove they were not doing what our 17 intelligence agencies told us, again and again, they were not doing.

    Why did we disbelieve our own intelligence, and buy into the “Chicken Little” chatter about Iran being “only months away from a bomb”?

    Under the deal, Iran has put two-thirds of the 19,000 centrifuges at Natanz in storage, ceased enriching uranium to 20 percent at Fordow, poured concrete into the core of its heavy water reactor at Arak, and shipped 97 percent of its enriched uranium out of the country. Cameras and United Nations inspectors are all over the place.

    Even should Iran decide on a crash program to create enough fissile material for a single A-bomb test, this would take a year, and we would know about it.

    But why would they? After all, there are sound reasons of state why Iran decided over a decade ago to forego nuclear weapons.

    If, however, in the absence of a violation of the treaty by Iran, we tore up the deal, we could find ourselves isolated. For Britain, France and Germany also signed, and they believe the agreement is a good one.

    Do we really want to force these NATO allies to choose between the deal they agreed to and a break with the United States?

    If the War Party is confident Iran is going to cheat, why not wait until they do. Then make our case with evidence, so our allies can go with us on principle, and not from pressure.

    Iran’s young seek to engage with the West. But if they are spurned, by the cancellation of the Boeing deal and the reimposition of U.S. sanctions, they will be disillusioned and discredited, and the mullahs will own the future.

    How would that serve U.S. interests?
    http://buchanan.org/blog/iran-nuclea...ve-dead-126399

    If Trump pushes for a war, Putin should sell about 400 nukes to Iran to avoid another war over phony WMDs. Only having nuclear weapons will then prevent the murder of 1 million or more Iranians, like the zionist did to Iraq. If Iraq had nukes, they would not have been attacked. But it would be stupid to try to develop nukes. The US is itching for another neo-con war.

    It looks like the mullahs in Iran are correct, you can't work with the terrorists in Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messier 67 View Post
    Obama was a useless "president" who carried out mass murder in Syria in overthrow attempt at Assad. One of the only good things he did was the Iran Nuke deal.



    http://buchanan.org/blog/iran-nuclea...ve-dead-126399

    If Trump pushes for a war, Putin should sell about 400 nukes to Iran to avoid another war over phony WMDs. Only having nuclear weapons will then prevent the murder of 1 million or more Iranians, like the zionist did to Iraq. If Iraq had nukes, they would not have been attacked. But it would be stupid to try to develop nukes. The US is itching for another neo-con war.

    It looks like the mullahs in Iran are correct, you can't work with the terrorists in Washington.
    The U.S cant have any more wars, period. The more wars the U.S gets into, the higher the chance the american empire will end.

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    And people say Trump isn't a shill, lol. What a joke.

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    Nuke deal isn't enforceable. The provisions are junk, it like saying I will pay 5 million a year to rent 35,000 RSF of office space on the 10th floor, but I may elect to not pay rent. USA gave Iran buckets full of cash, Boeing struck a deal to sell 25 Billion worth of Airliners to Iran. You guys keep forgetting to "follow the money". Airbus did a large deal with Iran prior to the Nuke deal, Boeing needed to keep pace in new markets. I can't believe you fall for this pending neo con war blah blah blah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    The U.S cant have any more wars, period. The more wars the U.S gets into, the higher the chance the american empire will end.
    That is a hope for peace, but wars prop up the petrodollar.

    It's the AIPAC community that wants war.

    Pat Buchanan wants to stay on the tv air, he has been on PBS, CNN, MSNBC, and currently on Fox News. So he calls the zionists, the "War Party".

    Buchanan has stated, in the past, "Capitol Hill (Congress) is israeli occupied territory".

    Effectively stating this:

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    About 1/5 of the US, minus the insiders who know how the country is run, know AIPAC and other such organizations and groups run the "US government". The last resistance was Kennedy and Nixon, who played the game of Kissinger while not giving Kissinger everything asked. One got assassinated over not letting the zionist state get nukes and other got removed by the media over multiple reasons. The Clintons got involved with murder, drugs, treason, and other crimes, but since they have their own criminal mob and since their mob is friends with the criminal network you are "supposed" to support to be in "government", the Clintons get a "free pass".

    Trump's family knows who to support to get into positions of "power". His family all married into a certain tribe, except Barron. His father knows who to help, so his son gets "help" later on: f9d803e0f2c377b7670a3650e4b919eefaa85a0c.jpeg
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMack View Post
    Nuke deal isn't enforceable. The provisions are junk, it like saying I will pay 5 million a year to rent 35,000 RSF of office space on the 10th floor, but I may elect to not pay rent. USA gave Iran buckets full of cash, Boeing struck a deal to sell 25 Billion worth of Airliners to Iran. You guys keep forgetting to "follow the money". Airbus did a large deal with Iran prior to the Nuke deal, Boeing needed to keep pace in new markets. I can't believe you fall for this pending neo con war blah blah blah.
    So whats with these new sanctions then? The U.S is clearly trying to make Iran give up the deal when its obvious that Iran has been complying. There would be no other reason to impose sanctions unless the U.S is trying get what it wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    So whats with these new sanctions then? The U.S is clearly trying to make Iran give up the deal when its obvious that Iran has been complying.
    No way to know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMack View Post
    No way to know that.
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/17/politi...ear/index.html

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