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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Garvey View Post
    A great Human being who stood up against the imperialism of his time. Deserves respect, even if I think the state should be a bit smaller than what he believed. D-lhe Che nos bolsominions!
    Is easy to be a socialist when you has a home, food every day in your table, an work, you can chose what you want to work.I want to see you in Venezuela or Cuba being property of state; I want to see you in North Korea not being able to speak what you want, being obliged to hail and admire a dinasty of dictators thar claim be the gods of liberty.

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    I associate el Che with intolerance and cheap populism. BTW, I am not defending yankee imperialism either (I despise it), but the way some leftists fight is not good or positive. Latin America is lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    Is easy to be a socialist when you has a home, food every day in your table, an work, you can chose what you want to work.I want to see you in Venezuela or Cuba being property of state; I want to see you in North Korea not being able to speak what you want, being obliged to hail and admire a dinasty of dictators thar claim be the gods of liberty.
    Educated middle class people defending Cuba or Venezuela regimes get on my nerves. Go there yourself and experiment the feeling to be controlled and limited in many important aspects of your life. Like you said its easy to defend all that when you can do whatever you want. Go and talk with the many people that flew from these countries and learn the way they live, they are controlled and completly deceived, specially Cuba, where people know nothing else but Castro regime. It makes you wanna cry -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie999 View Post
    Educated middle class people defending Cuba or Venezuela regimes get on my nerves. Go there yourself and experiment the feeling to be controlled and limited in many important aspects of your life. Like you said its easy to defend all that when you can do whatever you want. Go and talk with the many people that flew from these countries and learn the way they live, they are controlled and completly deceived, specially Cuba, where people know nothing else but Castro regime. It makes you wanna cry -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie999 View Post
    Educated middle class people defending Cuba or Venezuela regimes get on my nerves. Go there yourself and experiment the feeling to be controlled and limited in many important aspects of your life. Like you said its easy to defend all that when you can do whatever you want. Go and talk with the many people that flew from these countries and learn the way they live, they are controlled and completly deceived, specially Cuba, where people know nothing else but Castro regime. It makes you wanna cry -
    Indeed here, who defend Chvez/Maduro are middle and middle/upper class adolescents/young people who recived good education. But the problem is that especially universities are full of political groups (centros de estudiantes) who are totally leftists and 100% political correct. That's the point why an absolutely failed political/economical model like marxism is still popular between them. But they need to live under those regimes, to see if they change idea or not...
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    I will just say one thing, and you can quote me on this; I'm not a Che Guevara fan or a fan of communism IN PRACTISE, but this is what I think; Human Species in general is way too retard to ever apply Communism FROM PAPER to practise, that's why we got from "Communism" IN PRACTISE the thing we got in history of this planet; "USSR, Cuba, North Korea" etc..., it is just an example how majority of humans are truly truly INFERIOR as species to ever apply true Communism from paper.

    So what that same retard INFERIOR human species choose for their system? Inferior ideology ofcourse, Capitalism, perfect for the inferior SPECIES.

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    Communism is not a morally bad ideology. Its just that its not a practical form of government. However bad communism was, he was a good man that helped colonies in africa try to get independance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    Communism is not a morally bad ideology. Its just that its not a practical form of government.
    Correction; It was not practical form of govermont FOR HUMANS, so let's be totally straight and honest .

    To give a Communism from paper to Humans is same as to give AK-47 to Chimpanzee and you learn chimpanzee basic stuff of how to use that AK-47 and then you expect from that chimpanzee to use it in peace form for other chimpanzees? Hell no, chimpanzee would take that AK-47 and kill all chimpanzee rivals, same as humans were and are doing with communism IN PRACTISE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    However bad communism was, he was a good man that helped colonies in africa try to get independance.
    Capitalism is nothin more but the same economy when first human economy appeared in Eneolithic (4000 BC); changing Copper AXE for 100 sheeps and vice versa, only now there is money involved instead AXE and sheeps, and that alone shows you "how far" we got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robocop View Post
    Correction; It was not practical form of govermont FOR HUMANS, so let's be totally straight and honest .



    To give a Communism from paper to Humans is same as to give AK-47 to Chimpanzee and you learn chimpanzee basic stuff of how to use that AK-47 and then you expect from that chimpanzee to use it in peace form for other chimpanzees? Hell no, chimpanzee would take that AK-47 and kill all chimpanzee rivals, same as humans were and are doing with communism IN PRACTISE.
    Wtf are you blabbing about here.?
    Chimps holding aks have nothing to do with communist ideology. And is nothing alike.
    The problem with communism is that everyone gets the same pay no matter what and can never own anything. So people arent motivated to work harder than they have to. People dont have need or have drive to innovate and compete.



    Capitalism is nothin more but the same economy when first human economy appeared in Eneolithic (4000 BC); changing AXE for 1000 sheeps and vice versa, only it's not about the money, and that alone shows you "how far" we got.

    Not completely true. People probably payed taxes.

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