Ethnic maps of Europe (various)

[rothaer]

For me it is green not blue. But maybe my monitor is old and in this case there are Ukrainians.

Confess that your particular attention was just attracted by Lyck's / Elk's Lithuanian name.

[rothaer]

They have their own sec. school there, so there must be some of them.


Nazi census Ostland 1942


1942 Jekab Jureviz, Gottfried Müller, Hermann Warren: "Ostland-Atlas: Baltische Randstaaten,"
Riga, published by Reichskommissar für das Ostland. One of two reports that make up the
"Strukturbericht über das Ostland" (Structural Report on the Ostland), the other being "Ostland in
Zahlen" (Ostland in Numbers). This report was created by the Nazi Reich Commissioner for the Eastern
Territories and used in the civil administration of the occupied Eastern Territories: Estonia, Latvia,
Lithuania, Belarussia and part of Poland. The 52 color maps show the occupied administrative
territories, their climate and vegetation, population demographics, agricultural status, industry,
energy and economic features, traffic and roads, foreign trade in 1938, and the history of the area to
1943. Ethnographic and religion maps are shown below. (Others are at the "Maps1940-45" page).
From Ball State University's digital library, at www.bsu.edu

Post with great maps and information, thanks.

I wonder why Narva changed ethnicity so much into Russian while the Soviet Union. Deportations of Estonians or inaccurate 1942 map?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Post with great maps and information, thanks.

I wonder why Narva changed ethnicity so much into Russian while the Soviet Union. Deportations of Estonians or inaccurate 1942 map?

During the reconstruction of the city after WWII, the Russians prohibited Estonians from returning to the city, basically colonizing it. Somewhat similar to what happened in Ukraine and other former Soviet republics with sizable Russian diasporas that sprouted in a matter of years. You just need to plant trojan horses throughout the republics and after a hundred years come back saying that either the territories have always been Russian or that the minorities are being threatened.

[cass]

Post with great maps and information, thanks.

I wonder why Narva changed ethnicity so much into Russian while the Soviet Union. Deportations of Estonians or inaccurate 1942 map?

https://www.digar.ee/arhiiv/et/download/134784
Here you are

[thatoneton]

Austria-Hungary, census 1910. with drawn modern borders:





zoomed southern areas:





Serbs in Austria-Hungary:

Hey, what's the source for such a detailed Austro-Hungary map? I'm curious since it's one of the very few that actually don't deletes the Poles from much of the area where they were a significant population/relative majority (plurality) like most maps do.
I'm talking mostly about the areas of west Podolia (eastern part of the then-Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria/Austrian Poland) which on this map are correctly shown having a Polish plurality.

[Regnera]

I think the Germanic influence of France is highly overrated.

[Dušan]

Hey, what's the source for such a detailed Austro-Hungary map? I'm curious since it's one of the very few that actually don't deletes the Poles from much of the area where they were a significant population/relative majority (plurality) like most maps do.
I'm talking mostly about the areas of west Podolia (eastern part of the then-Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria/Austrian Poland) which on this map are correctly shown having a Polish plurality.

Here is link: http://monarchia.elte.hu/

[Lucas]

Confess that your particular attention was just attracted by Lyck's / Elk's Lithuanian name.

Yes

But returning to blueish map you posted, you can admit it was wrong, as even now Lithuanians shows Polish majority near Vilnus, so dozen percent, even without Jews before WWI was a Russian anti-Polish joke.

The same for west Belarus. 5% near Grodno lol as even today it is offically between 20-40% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_...rus_(2019).png

For West Ukraine we have posted just before official Austrian census maps which shows numerous Polish majority counties there.


But this is map made by American intelligence OSS, based on Swisss ethnographic cart so certainly without Polish agenda. You see Germans are showed even in central Poland and near Vistula in Masovia.

[renaissance12]

I think the Germanic influence of France is highly overrated.

Also in Germany and even more in Austria and Switzerland...

[thatoneton]

Yes

But returning to blueish map you posted, you can admit it was wrong, as even now Lithuanians shows Polish majority near Vilnus, so dozen percent, even without Jews before WWI was a Russian anti-Polish joke.

The same for west Belarus. 5% near Grodno lol as even today it is offically between 20-40% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_...rus_(2019).png

For West Ukraine we have posted just before official Austrian census maps which shows numerous Polish majority counties there.


But this is map made by American intelligence OSS, based on Swisss ethnographic cart so certainly without Polish agenda. You see Germans are showed even in central Poland and near Vistula in Masovia.

Indeed the Russian census("-es" is problematic since there was officially only one whole-Russian Empire census in 1897 and the demograhpic data was typically compiled from other official sources) heavily deflated the number of Poles living in the western gubernias of the Russian Empire which can be easily seen when comparing the percentage of Catholics, who were overwhelmingly Polish with the supposed ethnic distribution of the population.
An interesting fact is that this was mostly done in the areas that roughly corresponded to the lands taken during the partitions of Poland and at the start of the XIX century, and was much less common in other areas, which had some Polish communities, which was clearly an effort to minimize the Polish independence aspirations.
For example according to the 1897 census the Podolian gubernia (governorate) was inhabited by the 8.7% of (Roman) Catholics, yet supposedly the Poles made up only 2.29% of the population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podoli...orate#Language
Same thing was the case with other areas which supposedly had barely any significant Polish population, and suddenly when a chance presented itself (as was the case with German census of 1916 in what for the Poles were the north-eastern Kresy and which nowadays is mostly a part of Lithuania or Belarus) were shown to have to much more numerous Polish population.

In fact such a situation even happened with some areas that belonged to the USSR after the war and which during the 1926 census (first all-Soviet census) were shown as having a bigger Polish population than during the Russian Empire era, despite the fact that in reality more than a million Poles left the areas that didn't become a part of the Second Polish Republic (Second Rzeczpospolita) in the aftermath of WW1.

Here's a map of the Poles in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic according to the 1926 census (which by the way was also criticized by the Polish organizations for deflating the number of the Poles living in these areas).
https://megawrzuta.pl/download/40574...68dfa5f25.html
Sorry for crappy hosting site


@ Dušan

Thanks