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    National Identity in the UK (2011 census):

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    Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085

    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
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    Ethnic map of the European part of the Osman Empire in 1861:

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    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Languages in East and West Prussia in 1861:

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    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Celts and Germanics in Central Europe 500 BCE - 50 BCE. It's an older map on this topic which actually has many uncertainties till this very day, so it may be taken with some question marks. But it looks to have been made with some consideration:



    A more modern map on the same topic of early Germanics in Central Europe looks more rough and like this (as for dates see on the legend of the map):

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    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    A maybe interesting map of lexical distances of European languages:

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    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf View Post
    There are some mistakes. For example, by that year Arabic had largely disappeared from Sicily and Greek was not that widespread there. In Trento a transitional language between Lombard and Venetian languages was and is still spoken, not German. Slavic presence in half of Friuli is exaggerated, indicating it as an almost exclusive language, and in the same way the Romance/Venetian element in Dalmatia is likely inflated etc.
    - German language border was likely more like on the map for the 8th century, right? (i. e. a little bit south of the Salurner Klause)
    - As for Slavic language in Friuli it went till neatly before Udine, I guess.
    - The Romance element in Dalmatia may be inflated for better visibility. But afaik there were "Vlachs" around at various places that also could be referred to by that Romance depiction.
    - Arabic and Greek: interesting.
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    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
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    19.2 Celtic-like
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    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    - German language border was likely more like on the map for the 8th century, right? (i. e. a little bit south of the Salurner Klause)
    - As for Slavic language in Friuli it went till neatly before Udine, I guess.
    - The Romance element in Dalmatia may be inflated for better visibility. But afaik there were "Vlachs" around at various places that also could be referred to by that Romance depiction.
    - Arabic and Greek: interesting.
    It's hard to say what the border may have been in the 14th century, but I don't expect it to be too different from today. The border between Gallo-Italic and Southern Bavarian areas will have been 2 or 3 towns north of the city of Trent. As for the Slavic-speaking areas I guess east of Cividale.

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    Ex Yugoslavia census 1981

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    Distance: 1.7521% / 0.01752098
    60.4 Slavic: RUS_Sunghir_MA
    29.8 Roman: SRB_Svilos_Krusevlje
    9.8 Byzantine: TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
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    Reminds me of Volga-Ural region.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Russki View Post
    Reminds me of Volga-Ural region.


    Bosnian and Montenegrin language in reality doesn't exist.

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