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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    It's not native though, the native theory was accepted in the years of around 2010-14 now they are debunked by ancient DNA samples and studies on the haplogroups
    Which clades of I2a are native in the Balkans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavrentis View Post
    Just accept it and move on, the facts have presented themselves
    the only thing that one could accept here is that you are probably one of the most retarded posters on this site

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    Quote Originally Posted by pain View Post
    the only thing that one could accept here is that you are probably one of the most retarded posters on this site
    Aren't you that virgin incel from the discord chat with all the other toxic retards? Accept science or stfu btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavrentis View Post
    Which clades of I2a are native in the Balkans?
    There is a possibility of some I2a2a clades being native since there was multiple I2a2a found in the ancient Balkans although today most of the I2a2a in Balkanites is of Germanic input, another I2a clade which has a chance of being native is maybe some I2a1a which is found among Sardinians also some I2c could be native but idk about that one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    There is a possibility of some I2a2a clades being native since there was multiple I2a2a found in the ancient Balkans although today most of the I2a2a in Balkanites is of Germanic input, another I2a clade which has a chance of being native is maybe some I2a1a which is found among Sardinians also some I2c could be native but idk about that one
    Thanks for the answer, I thought that I2b was the other Germanic clade and not I2a2a but it seems that both are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavrentis View Post
    Thanks for the answer, I thought that I2b was the other Germanic clade and not I2a2a but it seems that both are
    I2b is the old name for I2a2
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I2b is the old name for I2a2
    I'm new to all this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Grand Duchy of Vladimir sample (Sunghir6) is on GEDmatch:

    Sunghir6 (years ca. 1040-1220 AD) - kit number T005824

    And his Y-DNA haplogroup was I2a1b2a1a1a1a3-A16681.
    I tought that Vladimir was N1c1 (Vladimir of viking Rurikid dynasty)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
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    This guy is just some commoner, not part of the Rurikid dynasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Grand Duchy of Vladimir
    Zalesie/sya.

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