Albanian Y-DNA Project

[Sturmgewehr]

Those are descendants of Arnautaši.

what does that mean ?

Ahaaaa I got it, it means Albanised Slavs.
I think that will show demonstrably false since I share no cousins, neither ancestors nor do I cluster with Serbs anywhere in 23andme.
Knowing the region where I come from and the way Albanian is spoken in that place and by my grandparents we do Have Vllach Origins from the region of Gjirokastra and Korcha where my ancestors came from.
I know I am Vllach but I do not know of any Serbian connection to my bloodline.

I also have Italian, an 100% Italian ancestor was identified who dates back in 1800s.

I have clustered close with as expected Southern Albania: ( Korçë County and Gjirokastër County) this I knew before I did my DNA testing.

In Greece I associate closely with ( Peloponnese, Central Greece and Epirus ) Peloponnese was a bit of a surprise and that is the region I clusted the strongest with in Greece followed by Central Greece and Epirus which has again havily been inhabited by Retro Latins (Aromanians).

In Romania I have strong matches with people from ( Buzău County, Argeș County and Galați )

However it is interesting looking at your Hypothesis even though it does not apply to my case, I only have some weak matches with Croatia in Istria County.

0 in Serbia, 0 in Montenegro, 0 matches in Bulgaria, 0 Matches in Bosnia.
I do have strong matches in Macedonia but when you look at the map and my cousins in 23 and me they are mostly my cousins and people from my region which pretty much are of the same origin since we are a small 1700 people Vlacho-Albanian minority in that region.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

what does that mean ?

Ahaaaa I got it, it means Albanised Slavs.
I think that will show demonstrably false since I share no cousins, neither ancestors nor do I cluster with Serbs anywhere in 23andme.
Knowing the region where I come from and the way Albanian is spoken in that place and by my grandparents we do Have Vllach Origins from the region of Gjirokastra and Korcha where my ancestors came from.
I know I am Vllach but I do not know of any Serbian connection to my bloodline.

Your haplogroup came to Vlachs via Slavs though

[Sturmgewehr]

Your haplogroup came to Vlachs via Slavs though

I edited my comment and I also match with Istria in Croatia, the only Slavs I seem to be related to.

I doubt I2a in Albania especially in southern Albania comes via Slavs, if my ancestors came from Central or north central Albania then yes since during the 5th and 6th century several Slavic tribes did settle there (according to the History books of University of Tirana from 1970s I got at home) however the very deep south I come from has historically been known as the Center of Vllachs in the balkan and Moskopolis (Voskopija Today ) is known and documented to have been the capital of Aromanians/Vlachs in the Balkans and Albania is the second country with the highest concentration of Vlachs/Aromanians in the world after Romania. you might wanna check Moskopolis.

By the way the current Prime minister of Albania is partially Vllach, Edi Rama's father Kristaq Rama is said to be or Aromanian origin.

Check the PIC

[Albobalboa]

I edited my comment and I also match with Istria in Croatia, the only Slavs I seem to be related to.

I doubt I2a in Albania especially in southern Albania comes via Slavs, if my ancestors came from Central or north central Albania then yes since during the 5th and 6th century several Slavic tribes did settle there (according to the History books of University of Tirana from 1970s I got at home) however the very deep south I come from has historically been known as the Center of Vllachs in the balkan and Moskopolis (Voskopija Today ) is known and documented to have been the capital of Aromanians/Vlachs in the Balkans and Albania is the second country with the highest concentration of Vlachs/Aromanians in the world after Romania. you might wanna check Moskopolis.

By the way the current Prime minister of Albania is partially Vllach, Edi Rama's father Kristaq Rama is said to be or Aromanian origin.

Check the PIC

Is it such a great insult to have a slavic paternal ancestor? You're obviously not slavic either way.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

You probably match with Istria due to Istro-Romanian Vlachs that settled there. But yeah bro Vlachs did mix with Slavs. Some Greek girl's father is full Vlach and scores 60% eastern Europe for example.

[Sturmgewehr]

Is it such a great insult to have a slavic paternal ancestor? You're obviously not slavic either way.

no I am not, if I was eeeeeh what can you do it is not like i can control it, nothing bad about it.

However it is interesting that I have pretty low Slavic Matches on my 23andMe.

Most of my matches are a mix of Greek, Albanian and Romanian, I have an Italian Ancestor though.

[Sturmgewehr]

You probably match with Istria due to Istro-Romanian Vlachs that settled there. But yeah bro Vlachs did mix with Slavs. Some Greek girl's father is full Vlach and scores 60% eastern Europe for example.

Interesting I didnt know Istria had Vlachs even though the name istria should have rang a bell, Istro Romanian.

[safinator]

I think I got the same match. He’s from Dibra e Madhe(Debar) in Macedonia. We do have some L51>P312 samples in the project, though they haven’t tested SNPs and so we can’t say for certain if they are U152 or from some other P312 clade. U152 has many clades which can be of various origins, some could be linked to Italo-Celtic peoples whilst others to cultures such as the Urnfield one.

The Albanian in question is from Vlore so different from the one you are talking about.

[Kelmendasi]

The Albanian in question is from Vlore so different from the one you are talking about.

Well two of the L51>P312 samples are from Vlore, so maybe they are U152.

[KastriotiBlood]

Is it such a great insult to have a slavic paternal ancestor? You're obviously not slavic either way.

Hello, I am new here. Saw this comment and would like to know why serbs are darker than croats. I imagine that serbs are the purer race and that's what they looked like when they came from Russia/asia into europe? For example Djokovic is a darkish guy who just about passes for white in europe, if you have an ancestor like this then it would have affected your skin tone as an albanian at some point. Another good example is vujadin savic, to me he looks like a typical serb and then there are the even darker ones who must have mixed turkish dna like this guy http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pH8tjcgLmg...e_icon0006.jpg