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    Depends on lands. Southern Germans (Swabians, Bavarians, Franconians), while having Gaulish and Huguenot blood, closer to South French and Northern Italians. Lower Saxons and Westphalians are purer Germanics closer to Dutch, English and Scandinavians. Eastern Germans (former Prussia, Mecklenburg and Saxony) has large amount of Slavic blood and closer to Poles and Czechs. But culturally Germany clearly is a part of Western Europe because cultural influences came mainly from France (Roman empire, Charlemagne's conquest, French Enlightenment and Napoleon's reforms).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    Depends on lands. Southern Germans (Swabians, Bavarians, Franconians), while having Gaulish and Huguenot blood, closer to South French and Northern Italians. Lower Saxons and Westphalians are purer Germanics closer to Dutch, English and Scandinavians. Eastern Germans (former Prussia, Mecklenburg and Saxony) has large amount of Slavic blood and closer to Poles and Czechs. But culturally Germany clearly is a part of Western Europe because cultural influences came mainly from France (Roman empire, Charlemagne's conquest, French Enlightenment and Napoleon's reforms).
    Not true. Here are my mother's distances (from Franconia)

    Eurogenes EUtest

    Distance to: MotherKyp
    3.24018518 West_&_Central_German
    5.08364043 Dutch
    6.89243789 Austrian
    7.45662792 English
    8.36308555 Cornish
    8.97162750 Danish
    9.37110986 Orcadian
    9.79247670 South_&_Central_Swedish
    9.99972000 Norwegian
    10.62592584 Irish
    11.58621595 French
    11.70463583 Scottish
    12.66057661 North_Swedish
    12.97311884 Czech
    13.08469717 Hungarian
    13.44095979 Kaikavian_Croatian
    13.82235468 Croatian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    Southern Germans (Swabians, Bavarians, Franconians), while having Gaulish and Huguenot blood, closer to South French and Northern Italians.
    Totally bullshit, south germans are not mediterraneans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    Lower Saxons and Westphalians are purer Germanics closer to Dutch, English and Scandinavians. Eastern Germans (former Prussia, Mecklenburg and Saxony) has large amount of Slavic blood and closer to Poles and Czechs.
    All germans are closest to Dutch, English, Danes and far away from poles, even finns are closer to germans than poles:



    Czechs are half germans with tons of german ancestry, i'm sure even hungarians are more slavic than czechs. Slavic influence is significant in Burgenland where many hungarian, croat and serbian people migrated and mixed with locals and some part of East Germany, rougly 5-6 million german have significant (so more than 20%) slavic ancestry other 80 million haven't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Totally bullshit, south germans are not mediterraneans.



    All germans are closest to Dutch, English, Danes and far away from poles, even finns are closer to germans than poles:



    Czechs are half germans with tons of german ancestry, i'm sure even hungarians are more slavic than czechs. Slavic influence is significant in Burgenland where many hungarian, croat and serbian people migrated and mixed with locals and some part of East Germany, rougly 5-6 million german have significant (so more than 20%) slavic ancestry other 80 million haven't.
    Then why Alpine and Dinaric South Germans doesn't resemble Nordic-Borreby Saxons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    Then why Alpine and Dinaric South Germans doesn't resemble Nordic-Borreby Saxons?
    South germans are not dinarid, but mostly alpinid + nordid amixed types or do you really think croats (who are alpinid + dinarid) and south germans look same? Don't make me laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    South germans are not dinarid, but mostly alpinid + nordid amixed types or do you really think croats (who are alpinid + dinarid) and south germans look same? Don't make me laugh.
    Are these people with clearly Dinaric features Germans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajimurad View Post
    Dinarid is not the most common type among south germans, lol and many people are norid or alpinid on your pics. I love when a totally foreign person know better this region than a native.

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    west europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Dinarid is not the most common type among south germans, lol and many people are norid or alpinid on your pics. I love when a totally foreign person know better this region than a native.
    Who is alpinid? Leni Riefenstahl? Max Planck? Manstein? Wagner? Grimm brothers? With their round heads, hooked noses and dark eyes? Only Woody's are Noric and Alpine. If you don't know Noric type is an basically Dinaric with light features. Russians often mocked Germans as having big hooked noses.

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    Western Euros i guess

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