Which is more gracile/progressive - Hallstatt or East Nordid?

[Linebacker]

But surely it must be, they're very similar when it comes to facial dimensions, and also most crucially the Nordid type isn't cold adapted - it's the opposite. Cold adapted types have rounder heads to retain more heat.

And all such speculations end when you test a person from Scandinavia and a person from Italy and they have a completely different genetic profile and clusters.

[Token]

Corded was completely Aurignacid without any important Cromagnid admixture. Also, Nordids obviously share a origin with Cordeds just like they share with Iranids, Mediterranids and others leptodolichomorphic types but Corded is not the 'ancestral' Nordid type, it's most likely that originally they were closer to Mediterranoids than to Nordoids but this is not important as the unique substantial difference is the pigmentation, principally when we are talking about West-Mediterranids specifically.

[Sebastianus Rex]

So what's your opinion as to what's more gracile or progressive or just elegant/noble in general?

That's subjective, they are very similar. The biggest difference is that Cordeds have a greater head lenght (are more dolichocephalic).

[Sebastianus Rex]

And all such speculations end when you test a person from Scandinavia and a person from Italy and they have a completely different genetic profile and clusters.

Anthropology is not pseudo-science, by the finding and dating of skulls it is possible to trace with notable precision the movements of ancestral racial types and when and how they were introduced in a particular area. Genetic clusters are also programmed by man, in a way they are pseudo-science because no one really knows objectively the dynamics of dna, how phenotype is defined and how many "components" are yet still to be discovered.

[Linebacker]

Anthropology is not pseudo-science, by the finding and dating of skulls it is possible to trace with notable precision the movements of ancestral racial types and when and how they were introduced in a particular area. Genetic clusters are also programmed by man, in a way they are pseudo-science because no one really knows objectively the dynamics of dna, how phenotype is defined and how many "components" are yet still to be discovered.

I know that I will prefer to belive modern genetic studies to the guesswork of a man who first had no access to such tools,and second he didn't even have access to many historical documents,as in his time they were much more strictly kept and not open to the general public as they are now.(Some are still not avaitable)

As I said,his classification system and measurement methods work flawlessly for separating phenotypes and their differences,but thats it.

His racial origins theories are last century and dated by all standards.To take them seriously and belive them you have to be a madman.

[Sebastianus Rex]

I know that I will prefer to belive modern genetic studies to the guesswork of a man who first had no access to such tools,and second he didn't even have access to many historical documents,as in his time they were much more strictly kept and not open to the general public as they are now.(Some are still not avaitable)

As I said,his classification system and measurement methods work flawlessly for separating phenotypes and their differences,but thats it.

His racial origins theories are last century and dated by all standards.To take them seriously and belive them you have to be a madman.

So according to your own theory of modern genetics we must assume that the Nordic skulls always existed in Scandinavia, since the modern Nordic individuals for example in Sweden cluster genetically with Borrebies and other UP survivors of the same country.

Nordic skulls are unknown of in Europe previously to the Neolithic period. It is obvious that they are not connected in origin to UP survivors and that is a fact, no matter what man made genetic plots and their still rudimentar methodology tell you.

[Regnera]

East Nordid,Hallstatt looks rougher and more angular.

[Joso]

I don't know, hallstatts have robust traits that cordeds have not but cordeds also have robust traits that hallstatt have not. Still i think that hallstatt are a bit more robust.

[Joso]

East Nordid,Hallstatt looks rougher and more angular.

I agree that hallstatts are more robust. But angular is the opposite of robust most of the time.

[Joso]

That's subjective, they are very similar. The biggest difference is that Cordeds have a greater head lenght (are more dolichocephalic).

Another important difference is that corded are high vaulted.