Who Owned Albania? (350 BC - 2017)

[Ujku]

When will Albania join the EU?

Not sooner than 2025.

[Ujku]

That’s not what I hear from Albanian nationalists in Macedonia, who are trying to suggest there are Orthodox Albanians who have been macedonianized such as Branko manojlovski

Yes , some orthodox Albanians were assimilated by both Serbs and Greeks but they were not that many.

[Kamal900]

It's a broad cluster tbh, it should be broken down by people who make the admixture tools. The East Med in the Balkans is probably not the same as East Med in the Levant

I would say that the east Med genetic component is a shared ancestral genes from the neolithic period that originated from the Levant. I mean, my east Med is around less than 40%(39.5% to be precise) making me among the most east Med genetically in this forum, but other than Levantines, the native Europeans of the Balkans are indeed very east Med in contrast to other Europeans.

[Herr Abubu]

That’s not what I hear from Albanian nationalists in Macedonia, who are trying to suggest there are Orthodox Albanians who have been macedonianized such as Branko manojlovski

Branko Manojlovski himself claims that. It is strange that in the Western parts of Macedonia there used to be Orthodox Albanians, even with important towns for Albanian Orthodoxy and literature like Manastir, but that they completely disappeared, isn't it? Of course there are exaggerations and political aims behind it, but there's truth to it.

[MinervaItalica]

Fascinating! For more than 2,000 years, Albania has been a part of the largest and most powerful empires and kingdoms in Europe/the world. Not many other countries can claim they were once part of:

Ancient Macedonia
The Roman Republic
The Roman Empire
The Byzantine Empire
The Second Bulgarian Empire
Serbia
Greece
The Ottoman Empire
The Kingdom of Italy
Nazi Germany
The Warsaw Pact

etc

Forgot Venice.

[Crn Volk]

Branko Manojlovski himself claims that. It is strange that in the Western parts of Macedonia there used to be Orthodox Albanians, even with important towns for Albanian Orthodoxy and literature like Manastir, but that they completely disappeared, isn't it? Of course there are exaggerations and political aims behind it, but there's truth to it.

Also strange how some Torbeshi claim Albanian ancestry in order get jobs in DUI held municipalities...

[Herr Abubu]

Also strange how some Torbeshi claim Albanian ancestry in order get jobs in DUI held municipalities...

And how many would that be? Surely incomparable to the possible number of Orthodox Albanians in Macedonia.

[Trilecce]

You were their 'bitches'. Most of the foreign soldiers in the Ottoman army were Albanians.


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A bitch is not the people who get invited to form their most successfull military unit; the janissaries (who were almost exclusively formed of albanians). A bitch is the greek that forced to sell his daughters and take bread from his table in order to pay taxes to turks. You wont find bitches amongst us, recent histpry has made many bitches out of you.

[Crn Volk]

And how many would that be? Surely incomparable to the possible number of Orthodox Albanians in Macedonia.

Who knows, perhaps the next census can shed some light on this.

[Trilecce]

Branko Manojlovski himself claims that. It is strange that in the Western parts of Macedonia there used to be Orthodox Albanians, even with important towns for Albanian Orthodoxy and literature like Manastir, but that they completely disappeared, isn't it? Of course there are exaggerations and political aims behind it, but there's truth to it.

These orthodoks albanians of western fyrom are called Mijak in albanian or mijaci/miyaci in fyromanian.