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    GENEVA — Zurich police on Thursday were investigating an alleged skinhead assault on a pregnant Brazilian woman that caused her to miscarry twins and left her scarred with the initials of Switzerland's main right-wing party.

    Details of the attack shocked the Swiss public and prompted Brazilian officials to suggest it was prompted by xenophobia.

    Zurich police said details were not yet clear but a man called Monday evening to report that a woman at a Zurich train station needed help. When police found her, she had the letters carved into her skin and told them she had suffered a miscarriage after the attack.

    Brazil's Foreign Ministry and Brazilian media reported that three skinheads, one with a Nazi symbol tattooed on his forehead, attacked the woman outside a local train station in Zurich while she was heading home. She had been speaking in Portuguese to her mother on a cell phone when she was accosted.

    Brazil's foreign ministry expressed "great concern" about the attack in a hastily arranged meeting Thursday in Brasilia with a Swiss diplomats. Foreign Minister Celso Amorim urged Swiss investigators to act with "transparency" so both countries can learn exactly what happened,

    "There is a very strong appearance of xenophobia," Amorim said. "The person was not robbed, apparently she was not raped. That shows there was another motivation."

    Pictures of the smiling, pregnant woman were splashed across Brazilian newspapers Thursday next to those of a bare stomach and legs with the initials SVP _ presumably for "Schweizerische Volkspartei" (Swiss People's Party) _ clearly visible in several places.

    The woman has been identified by family members as 26-year-old Paula Oliveira, a lawyer working for European shipping giant A.P. Moller-Maersk A/S.

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    If the story is accurately told...

    Idiots!!

    This is a perfect example of what should be avoided and condemned by any reasonable national party out there.

    Three men against a pregnant woman?

    How germanic and brave.

    Let alone that the repercussions of this can only be negative for the swiss nationalist movement.

    If the SVP had some chance of taken seriously and gaining some popular support, now tell me who's gonna vote for them now that their actions are tied with such brutal, mindness and cowardly violent acts?

    I hope that the skinhead groups as well as SVP find out who they are and kick the shit out of them for creating such public damage to their image.

    That's not the way to fight immigration.
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    If the SVP had some chance of taken seriously and gaining some popular support, now tell me who's gonna vote for them now that their actions are tied with such brutal, mindness and cowardly violent acts?
    Actually the SVP is doing pretty well, considering it's the first party in Switzerland :

    Wiki:

    <table style="border: 1px solid rgb(170, 170, 170); margin: 1em 1em 1em 0pt; background: rgb(249, 249, 249) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; text-align: right; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 95%;" border="1" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"><caption>Summary of the 21 October 2007 National Council of Switzerland election results

    </caption> <tbody><tr> <th style="background-color: rgb(233, 233, 233);" colspan="2" align="left">Parties</th> <th style="background-color: rgb(233, 233, 233);" align="left">Abbr.</th> <th style="background-color: rgb(233, 233, 233);" align="right">Votes</th> <th style="background-color: rgb(233, 233, 233);" align="right">%</th> <th style="background-color: rgb(233, 233, 233);" align="right">+/–</th> <th style="background-color: rgb(233, 233, 233);" align="right">Seats</th> <th style="background-color: rgb(233, 233, 233);" align="right">+/–</th> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(0, 100, 0);"> </td> <td align="left">Swiss People's Party</td> <td align="left">SVP/UDC</td> <td>672,562</td> <td>29.0</td> <td>+2.3</td> <td>62</td> <td>+7</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">
    </td> <td align="left">Social Democratic Party of Switzerland</td> <td align="left">SP/PS</td> <td>451,916</td> <td>19.5</td> <td>–3.8</td> <td>43</td> <td>–9</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(0, 122, 210);">
    </td> <td align="left">Free Democratic Party of Switzerland</td> <td align="left">FDP/PRD</td> <td>364,736</td> <td>15.6</td> <td>–1.5</td> <td>31</td> <td>–5</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(219, 131, 0);">
    </td> <td align="left">Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland</td> <td align="left">CVP/PDC</td> <td>335,623</td> <td>14.6</td> <td>+0.2</td> <td>31</td> <td>+3</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(102, 187, 102);">
    </td> <td align="left">Green Party of Switzerland</td> <td align="left">GP/PES</td> <td>222,206</td> <td>9.6</td> <td>+2.2</td> <td>20</td> <td>+7</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(19, 75, 148);">
    </td> <td align="left">Liberal Party of Switzerland</td> <td align="left">LPS/PLS</td> <td>41,682</td> <td>1.8</td> <td>–0.4</td> <td>4</td> <td>±0</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(162, 187, 0);">
    </td> <td align="left">Green Liberal Party of Switzerland</td> <td align="left">GLP/VL</td> <td>33,104</td> <td>1.4</td> <td>+1.4</td> <td>3</td> <td>+3</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(254, 221, 4);">
    </td> <td align="left">Evangelical People's Party</td> <td align="left">EVP/PEV</td> <td>56,748</td> <td>2.4</td> <td>+0.1</td> <td>2</td> <td>–1</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(199, 21, 133);">
    </td> <td align="left">Federal Democratic Union</td> <td align="left">EDU/UDF</td> <td>29,914</td> <td>1.3</td> <td>±0.0</td> <td>1</td> <td>–1</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(150, 0, 24);">
    </td> <td align="left">Party of Labour</td> <td align="left">PdA</td> <td>17,218</td> <td>0.7</td> <td>±0.0</td> <td>1</td> <td>–1</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(100, 149, 237);">
    </td> <td align="left">Ticino League</td> <td align="left">LdT</td> <td>13,031</td> <td>0.5</td> <td>+0.1</td> <td>1</td> <td>±0</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(0, 128, 128);">
    </td> <td align="left">Christian Social Party</td> <td align="left">CSP/PCS</td> <td>9,984</td> <td>0.4</td> <td>±0.0</td> <td>1</td> <td>±0</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(205, 91, 69);">
    </td> <td align="left">Swiss Democrats</td> <td align="left">SD/DS</td> <td>12,609</td> <td>0.5</td> <td>–0.5</td> <td>—</td> <td>–1</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(220, 20, 60);">
    </td> <td align="left">solidaritéS</td> <td align="left">Sol</td> <td>8,669</td> <td>0.4</td> <td>–0.1</td> <td>—</td> <td>–1</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="background-color: rgb(144, 0, 32);">
    </td> <td align="left">Alternative List</td> <td align="left">AL</td> <td>4,582</td> <td>0.2</td> <td>–0.3</td> <td>—</td> <td>±0</td> </tr> <tr> <td>
    </td> <td align="left">Others</td> <td align="left">
    </td> <td>43,327</td> <td>1.8</td> <td>+0.2</td> <td>—</td> <td>±0</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: rgb(233, 233, 233);" align="left">Total (turnout 48.9%)</td> <td style="background-color: rgb(233, 233, 233);" align="right" width="75">
    </td> <td style="background-color: rgb(233, 233, 233);" align="right" width="30">
    </td> <td style="background-color: rgb(233, 233, 233);" align="right" width="30">200</td> <td style="background-color: rgb(233, 233, 233);" align="right" width="30">
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="6" align="left">Source: http://www.politik-stat.ch/nrw2007CH_de.html
    </td></tr></tbody></table>


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    My point is, that if it is doing well, it's not going to be doing so well after this kind of negative publicity. :|

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe View Post
    GENEVA — Zurich police on Thursday were investigating an alleged skinhead assault on a pregnant Brazilian woman that caused her to miscarry twins and left her scarred with the initials of Switzerland's main right-wing party.

    Details of the attack shocked the Swiss public and prompted Brazilian officials to suggest it was prompted by xenophobia.

    Zurich police said details were not yet clear but a man called Monday evening to report that a woman at a Zurich train station needed help. When police found her, she had the letters carved into her skin and told them she had suffered a miscarriage after the attack.

    Brazil's Foreign Ministry and Brazilian media reported that three skinheads, one with a Nazi symbol tattooed on his forehead, attacked the woman outside a local train station in Zurich while she was heading home. She had been speaking in Portuguese to her mother on a cell phone when she was accosted.

    Brazil's foreign ministry expressed "great concern" about the attack in a hastily arranged meeting Thursday in Brasilia with a Swiss diplomats. Foreign Minister Celso Amorim urged Swiss investigators to act with "transparency" so both countries can learn exactly what happened,

    "There is a very strong appearance of xenophobia," Amorim said. "The person was not robbed, apparently she was not raped. That shows there was another motivation."

    Pictures of the smiling, pregnant woman were splashed across Brazilian newspapers Thursday next to those of a bare stomach and legs with the initials SVP _ presumably for "Schweizerische Volkspartei" (Swiss People's Party) _ clearly visible in several places.

    The woman has been identified by family members as 26-year-old Paula Oliveira, a lawyer working for European shipping giant A.P. Moller-Maersk A/S.

    Source

    If the story is accurately told...

    Idiots!!

    This is a perfect example of what should be avoided and condemned by any reasonable national party out there.

    Three men against a pregnant woman?

    How germanic and brave.

    Let alone that the repercussions of this can only be negative for the swiss nationalist movement.

    If the SVP had some chance of taken seriously and gaining some popular support, now tell me who's gonna vote for them now that their actions are tied with such brutal, mindness and cowardly violent acts?

    I hope that the skinhead groups as well as SVP find out who they are and kick the shit out of them for creating such public damage to their image.

    That's not the way to fight immigration.
    This reminds of the German girl who made up a nice story about how she saved some negroïd from a skinhead attack and get herself carved a swastica in her forehead...

    She totally made the whole story up, she even carved the swas in herself...

    Media blew the whole thing up beyond proportions and the whole of Germany was sick to the stumach... The girl who was the hero of Germany was exposed during the trail hearings... Now that made the Germans sick....

    I'm smelling an unwanted pregnancy here... I do believe abortion is illegal in Switzerland.

    So should this article contain any thruths, than yes that would be sickening...
    Should my view on the mather be the thruth, than thats even more sickening.

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    There is a photo in the original source which shows the initials SVP carved several times on her belly and the news say they carved it all over her body.

    In the greek TV news I saw additional photos of her arms and legs which were massively scarred as well.

    I doubt anyone would be crazy enough to do that to herself just to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy... So I guess this time the story could be true.

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    ...that three skinheads, one with a Nazi symbol tattooed on his forehead, attacked the woman outside a local train station in Zurich while she was heading home.
    Shouldn't be too hard to discover the identity of this assailant, unless he was, of course, painting it on for some reason.


    "The person was not robbed, apparently she was not raped. That shows there was another motivation."
    We can rule out the suspects being black or Asian then!


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    For an attack by three crazed skinheads, the cuts do look remarkably self inflicted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe View Post
    There is a photo in the original source which shows the initials SVP carved several times on her belly and the news say they carved it all over her body.

    In the greek TV news I saw additional photos of her arms and legs which were massively scarred as well.

    I doubt anyone would be crazy enough to do that to herself just to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy... So I guess this time the story could be true.
    Please don't tell me your this naïve and gullible?

    Edit; And please tell me this; why are there no wounds on places of her body where she cant inflict them herself?
    Last edited by MarcvSS; 02-13-2009 at 11:52 AM.

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    I would consider myself naive and gullible if I believed that every single attack with racial motives is fake a provocation.

    There are all kinds of assholes out there, including assholes withing our own circles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe View Post
    I would consider myself naive and gullible if I believed that every single attack with racial motives is fake a provocation.
    So you have proof this attack was racially motivated? Maybe the motive was political... Bringing down the opposition for example...

    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe View Post
    There are all kinds of assholes out there, including assholes withing our own circles.
    Agreed... That still says shit.

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    Why are you taking this personally, KCV?

    I don't have proof, I said that I believe that this one was true. Until proven otherwise, for me the evidence indicates so. You can believe otherwise if you want, that's your business, but you can't force everyone to believe the same unless you also have....proof.

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