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Thread: Spanish Senate approves direct rule in Catalonia after regional parliament declared independence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    And until then one looks at past behavior to predict future behavior. Catalan culture doesn't revolve around violence. Catalans took pride in not supporting violence in the past when under Franco's rule and afterwards. ETA in contrast evolved from a long history of conflict by way of the Carlist Wars even though the Carlist Wars were as far ideologically different to ETA's political beliefs as one could get but much of those 19th century wars were fought in and around the Basque lands and so the use of violence to get what you want became seen as acceptable.



    In addition relatively prosperous areas and their populations are rarely keen on political violence.
    Don't read me gazel kid. I know what they are... They are brave, anti racist, marxist leninist mashallah people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post
    I don't think that the declaration was an emotional reaction because some people called Puigdemont coward. I think that the separatists played perfectly their game. Puigdemont, after his speech in Parliament after the referendum declared, let's give some weeks to the negotiations. When it was clear that negotiations failed they declared the Indipendence.
    And i think in this game of nerves, they are the winners, because again the ball is in the field of the Spaniards.
    I didn't say it was an emotional reaction. It's the only hand he has to play. They didn't just take down the Spanish flag. They took down the EU flag as well, which is amusing. Puigdemont had put his hope in the EU accepting Catalonia from the beginning. He believes now if Catalunya steps out regardless of EU support the EU will be forced to accept Catalunya independence. It's a desperate act. Regions separating from a central government undermines the EU and Catalunya loses a lot economically if it's outside the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    Don't read me gazel kid. I know what they are... They are brave, anti racist, marxist leninist mashallah people.
    I don't even who you are. I never interacted with you before and if I did I don't remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I didn't say it was an emotional reaction. It's the only hand he has to play. They didn't just take down the Spanish flag. They took down the EU flag as well, which is amusing. Puigdemont had put his hope in the EU accepting Catalonia from the beginning. He believes now if Catalunya steps out regardless of EU support the EU will be forced to accept Catalunya independence. It's a desperate act. Regions separating from a central government undermines the EU and Catalunya loses a lot economically if it's outside the EU.
    If you analyze carefully what happened this month, you will see that they won the first round. Now they passed the Rubikon. And people are asking not what Catalunya is going to do, but what will be the reaction of Spain.
    About EU, i want to remember you an famous and old slogan, the Europe of the regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I don't even who you are. I never interacted with you before and if I did I don't remember.
    Omg. Don't do that I won't be able to sleep for the next 3 weeks. OOOOOMG... :

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    Yeeeeeee Spain! What kind of democracy is this? Spain must be expelled from EU and we need a Catalonia sub forum.
    The same kind of democracy that wouldn't allow people from your street to declare independence. Which is why the international community isn't recognizing this nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    Omg. Don't do that I won't be able to sleep for the next 3 weeks. OOOOOMG... :
    Do what? I didn't say I was planning on doing anything.

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    I think, Iraq will follow Spain. Iraqi government may dissolve kurdish regional government, who held independence referendum despite the central government made objections, and impose direct rule in entire country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    Don't read me gazel kid. I know what they are... They are brave, anti racist, marxist leninist mashallah people.
    He wont understand what you really mean.

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    Now the telenovela is going to be very interesting. The Catalan Parliament has been disolved by the Central government, elections are called for December 21st 2017. Funny.

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