Indoeuropean patoises from Poland...

[Mikula]

Mikula, you didn't get it.

She clearly speaks szь, czь and żь - palatalizied versions.

This is not the same as szъ, czъ and żъ which are hard sounds.

And in this case, as I once allready told you, and what majority of
foreigners cannot get - ś, ć and ź are NOT soft versions of sz, cz
and ż, neither these are soft palatized sь, cь, and zь.

I know the differences, becasue I learned all of these sounds

What is wrong about my text?

I konw how Polish ć and ś sounds - and ones does not exit in regular Czech.

but what is difference between š and sz?
Škola sounds like szkola - or not?

[Rethel]

What is wrong about my text?

So what did you contradict in my statement?

but what is difference between š and sz?
Škola sounds like szkola - or not?

SHE did procounce it differently.
Idk how you do pronounce, or others.
I was talking about the woman in the
video which I added earlier.

I am shocked, that ż, cz, sz are in reality ż', sz', cz'.

She said it like that (galician pronouciation).

[Mikula]

So what did you contradict in my statement?



SHE did procounce it differently.
Idk how you do pronounce, or others.
I was talking about the woman in the
video which I added earlier.

Well, perhaps is problem with my ears.
To be sure, I would like to ask you wheter Polish SZ sounds differently than English SH or Russian ш?

[Rethel]

Well, perhaps is problem with my ears.
To be sure, I would like to ask you wheter Polish SZ sounds differently than English SH or Russian ш?

There are exeptions, so it is hard to generalized.
But do you know the difference between:

ś, ć, ź,
sz, cz, ż,
sz', cz', ż'.

Or some of them are for you the same????

[Mikula]

There are exeptions, so it is hard to generalized.
But do you know the difference between:

ś, ć, ź,
sz, cz, ż,
sz', cz', ż'.

Or some of them are for you the same????

I have no idea about the last row

[Rethel]

I have no idea about the last row

So she did pronounce it like that.
You can not even be noticing the difference with hard
sounds in other language, if you use to pronouce them,
as she. I know from my own expirience, that some sounds
a man is starting to notice, whe he learned how to speak
them and then is pronouncing them in words.

For example, average Pole will never get, what is the
difference between h and ch, from coincidental hearing.
You do. For you it is obvious.

[Rethel]

Look at this:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/szok

ʂɔk

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shock

ʃɒk

https://cs.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C5%A1ok

ʃɒk

[Rethel]

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%...BAwi%C4%99czna

Polska i rosyjska spółgłoska szczelinowa zadziąsłowa bezdźwięczna jest często uznawana (przez lingwistów zachodnich, ale nie przez slawistów) za spółgłoskę laminalną z retrofleksją ʂ. W języku polskim mamy jednak do czynienia z artykulacją z płaskim językiem, więc używanie tego terminu ma na celu podkreślenie różnicy między polskimi twardymi spółgłoskami zadziąsłowymi a ich czeskimi czy angielskimi odpowiednikami, wymawianymi miękko. Głoska ʃ jest też używana w Słowniku wymowy polskiej

And I wanted to write you, that sz is basicly english sh

[Rethel]

Bump

[Rethel]

I have no idea about the last row

I was also thinking to write you that the difference is like szi and
szy, but I don;t know if you know the difference between i and y