About Arpads couple of questions...

[Proto-Shaman]

anti-Turkic alliance?

[Ülev]

anti-Turkic alliance?

I am the son of Tugay-Bey


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azja
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tugay_Bey

they want to forgot about every glory past

polish article about Asia Tugay-Bey --> http://ciekawostkihistoryczne.pl/201...ito-go-na-pal/

that means, people do not realize who is who, back then and now, R1a can fight against themselves

[Lucia]

I mixed it up, there is a Greek branch of one Croatian noble family.
Though the Arpad I was talking about is József Daka, all the sources I could find are in Hungarian, so I'll leave it to the Hungarian members to translate if he's genuine.

[gültekin]

No. Even his name is clear Hungarian from the árpa (barley) word +diminutive -d. Basically most of the early personal names of the Árpád-house are specific Hungarian names. No evidence for a Turkic ancestry.

surprise
https://translate.google.com/?hl=en#en/tr/barley

[blogen]

Thanks.
When the results can be suspected? Year? Two? Three?

Maybe. The potential sources of the samples are holy relics of the most important Hungarian saints. So partially destroying these relics are not an option. The first sampling from Saint Ladislaus skull was unsuccessful, but presumably this was the last.


There is two other source, the Holy Right of Saint Stephen:



Basically any kind of significant damage is impossible. This is the holiest relic in Hungary. No chance.

So the skull of III Béla is the easily available option now:

[blogen]

surprise
https://translate.google.com/?hl=en#en/tr/barley

Irrevelant, since the Hungarian árpa is a West Old Turkic loanword from an orpa form. The Oghuz arpa is a consequence of this also and not the basis of the loanword in the Hungarian language.

[Arduti]

What is the exact etymology of the word "Arpad"?

[blogen]

What is the exact etymology of the word "Arpad"?

árpa+d means little barley.

[gültekin]

Irrevelant, since the Hungarian árpa is a West Old Turkic loanword from an orpa form. The Oghuz arpa is a consequence of this also and not the basis of the loanword in the Hungarian language.

No. Even his name is clear Hungarian from the árpa

i didn't say it is oğuz based. Oğuz Kipchak Ogur Chuvas Yakut etc. in all Turkic dialects is arpa. from east to west , nord to south
Btw his hame is Arpad not Árpad ....

[blogen]

i didn't say it is oğuz based. Oğuz Kipchak Ogur Chuvas Yakut etc. in all Turkic dialects is arpa. from east to west , nord to south
Btw his hame is Arpad not Árpad ....

Árpád is his name. And the "á" is not "a". West Old Turkic and the chuvash form is orpa. The only possible lending is the orpa-->árpa way, because the "á" in the Hungarian word. An arpa form would have remained in the Hungarian because the vovel harmony. But our word is árpa. If the Turkic orpa word would have been conjugated with the finnougric origin -d diminutive, then this would have been the result: Orpad. But the vocal is changed in the Hungarian. So Árpád's name is totally Hungarian from a Hungarian word with a Hungarian diminutive.