Pre-European Canary Islands DNA

[Smeagol]

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/...showall%3Dtrue
Highlights:
•The first genome-wide data from the Guanches confirm a North African origin
•The Guanches were genetically most similar to modern North African Berbers
•Modern inhabitants of Gran Canaria carry an estimated 16%–31% Guanche autosomal ancestry

[Loki]

The Guanches and the Berbers share the same origin, yes. They have been in North Africa for a very long time. And they were "white" (often blond, light eyes too). They were fairly tall.

I've heard there might be a connection with the Basques, too. Not sure if this shows genetically.

[kingjohn]

the remains in this study turned positive
for e-m81 that is very cool

[Rethel]

And they were "white" (often blond, light eyes too). They were fairly tall.

Nope. They were not - at least the berberian ones.
There was no one uniform Canarians at that time.
These fair examples lived only on some island, and
as Y testing proved, these features were introduced
by some Europeans. Even if later they were auDNAly
berberian, then it doesn't change the fact, that their
fairness was not from Berberian source but european.
Idk, celtic, romanic, vandalian, whatever...

[Loki]

Nope. They were not - at least the berberian ones.
There was no one uniform Canarians at that time.
These fair examples lived only on some island, and
as Y testing proved, these features were introduced
by some Europeans. Even if later they were auDNAly
berberian, then it doesn't change the fact, that their
fairness was not from Berberian source but european.
Idk, celtic, romanic, vandalian, whatever...

Why don't you read reports that the Europeans made of the Guanches when they first got to Canary Islands. It's irrelevant to me whether their "source of fairness" is from North African soil or the very near European soil.. because that doesn't mean anything. We don't know where their ultimate origin lies. Some suggest they descend from Cro Magnon.

As for the Berbers, they are related to the Guanches. Of course not all Berbers look fair today, because many are of mixed stock in modern times. That doesn't mean they were always mixed.

[Loki]

[Smeagol]

Why don't you read reports that the Europeans made of the Guanches when they first got to Canary Islands. It's irrelevant to me whether their "source of fairness" is from North African soil or the very near European soil.. because that doesn't mean anything. We don't know where their ultimate origin lies. Some suggest they descend from Cro Magnon.

As for the Berbers, they are related to the Guanches. Of course not all Berbers look fair today, because many are of mixed stock in modern times. That doesn't mean they were always mixed.

Coon (1939) proposed two sources for blondism and Nordic traits in Berbers:

The most troublesome factor in the whole North African racial problem lies in the necessity of explaining the origin of the local Nordics, whose presence as a minority in the populations of Tunisia, Algeria, and northern Morocco, if not in the Canary Islands, cannot be denied. There are two possible explanations, as follows:

(1) The North African Nordics resemble the mixed Nordics of Upper Palaeolithic inspiration found in Ireland and western Norway more than they do the ash-blond Eastern Valley Nordics of Norway, and those of Sweden. Therefore the so-called Nordics of North Africa are a mixture of brunet Mediterraneans of tall stature and considerable facial length with Afalou survivors. The minor blondism of these "Nordics" is derived from the Afalou side of the ancestry.

(2) The North African Nordics were partly formed as stated, but not wholly so, for there are some ash-blonds in the Rif; furthermore, the Riffian Nordics are lighter-haired than individuals of Afalou type, just as European Nordics are lighter-haired than are modern representatives of the Brünn race. Blond hair is positively associated with narrow noses, and the Afalou type nose is moderately broad. Unless it is possible to explain these phenomena as genetic recombinations, we must admit a Nordic invasion of North Africa from Europe or Asia as early as the second millennium B.C. Of the two continents, Asia is by far the more likely immediate source.

[Loki]

Yeah, I know. I find this especially interesting in his second option: "... we must admit a Nordic invasion of North Africa from Europe or Asia as early as the second millennium B.C. "

Then there are other theories, like coming from Atlantis. Many would laugh at the idea, but I wouldn't reject it out of hand. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

Anyway, if you have a look at the video I posted, the guy talks about Guanches, Berbers and also Basques. Quite interesting.

[Fantomas]

Why don't you read reports that the Europeans made of the Guanches when they first got to Canary Islands. It's irrelevant to me whether their "source of fairness" is from North African soil or the very near European soil.. because that doesn't mean anything. We don't know where their ultimate origin lies. Some suggest they descend from Cro Magnon.

As for the Berbers, they are related to the Guanches. Of course not all Berbers look fair today, because many are of mixed stock in modern times. That doesn't mean they were always mixed.

Don't you know that? Kurgan religion teaches that fairness was invented exclusively in North Pontic Neolithic area and later brought by Nordic cavalrymen to the west. This is an axiom which is not requiring of proof. You just must believe it, don't ask why.

[kingjohn]

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