The Celtic Balkans

[Guapo]

I think R1b is higher than what people think in the balkans in general, there needs to be mass studies of people, not just small samples.

[Kanuni]

R1b in Balkans is older than Western European ones,so there is no chance to be Celtic in origin.

It is the second biggest male lineage among Kosovo Albanians which peaks from 20-25%.

[Wildland]

R1b is regarded as Celtic. Pre-Celtic or Celtic although still from the same stock.
You are speaking of subclades here. And yes, R1 entered the Balkans in the Paleolithic era. Note in that time still R1.
Yet new subclades of R1b entered the Balkans too in modern time.

[Dacul]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3AX_JSnico
Look at this montenegrin folk costumes,they look norman/celtic,these are not usual in Balkans.
Look also at this moment of the dance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3AX_JSnico#t=1m43s
This is celtic or norman,anyway,northern,is not characteristic to Balkans at all.
But this is even more awsome,an old traditional song from Montenegro:

Sa Rumije Vila zove, \ From Rumija the Vila is calling,
Sa Rumije Vila zove, \ From Rumija the Vila is calling,
gorskog zmaja u Komove, \ The mountain dragon from Komovi,
gorskog zmaja u Komove. \ The mountain dragon from Komovi.

Zmajeviti,zmajeviti, \ Dragonborn, dragonborn,
dođi kmeni zmajeviti, \ come to me, oh dragonborn,
ljepše biti,ljepše biti, \ it will be better, it will be better,
ođe će ti ljepše biti. \ here for you, it will be better.

Primorsko me sunce grije, \ The coastal sun is warming me,
Primorsko me sunce grije, \ The coastal sun is warming me,
a more mi lice mije, \ and the sea is caressing my cheek,
a more mi lice mije. \ and the sea is caressing my cheek.

U Komove,u Komove, \ In Komovi, in Komovi,
a ti zmaje u Komove, \ and you dragon, are in Komovi,
u vjetrove,u vjetrove, \ in the winds, in the winds,
u snjegove i smetove. ' in the ice and the snowdrifts.

Zmaj joj na to odgovori, \ The dragon answers her calls,
Zmaj joj na to odgovori, \ The dragon answers her calls,
Komovi su moji dvori, \ The Komovi mountains are my courts,
Komovi su moji dvori. ' The Komovi mountains are my courts.

Hladne zime,hladne zime, \ Cold winters, cold winters,
topla ljeta,hladne zime, \ warm summers, cold winters,
čeliči me,čeliči me, \ are hardening me, are hardening me,
oko milo čeliči me. ' my darling, they are hardening me.

Kad bih s Koma odletio, \ When I would fly away from the Komovi mountains,
Kad bih s Koma odletio, \ When I would fly away from the Komovi mountains,
ja Zmaj gorski ne bih bio, \ I wouldn't be the Dragon of the mountain,
ja Zmaj gorski ne bih bio. \ I wouldn't be the Dragon of the mountain,

Vila zove,Vila zove, \ The Vila is calling, the Villa is calling,
sa Rumije Vila zove, \ From Rumija the Vila is calling,
odletio,odletio, \ If I flew, if I flew,
ja Zmaj gorski ne bih bio. \ I wouldn't be the Dragon of the mountain.

"Typical" to Balkans!Lol.
And dragons have link with celts,which considers them some kind of positive thing.
http://www.kilts-n-stuff.com/celtic-...c-dragons.html
Look what is told there:
But to the ancient Celt, the ley of the land meant how the magic or cosmic forces flowed through and affected the area, or how the area affected those forces. The Celts believed that dragons were creatures of the parallel world and their power and presence would affect the ley of the land. "The places associated with the dragon legend, the nerve centers of seasonal fertility, appear always to coincide with sites of ancient sanctity", Michell adds.
How is usually seen dragon in Balkans,as some evil presence (which logical is not seen like this,in the song cited above from Montenegro,since you do not call a negative presence at you):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zduha%C4%87
"n eastern, central, and southern Serbia, the defenders against bad weather were called the zmajevit men.[2][3] The adjective zmajevit is derived from the noun zmaj ("dragon"), and means "having a dragon's properties". In those areas, the dragon was imagined as a flying fiery power, a spiritual being benevolent towards the humans. Each dragon had his own territory, within which he dwelt by a forest spring or stream, or in the hollow trunk of a beech tree.[17] There are many toponyms with the root zmaj, for example Zmajevac, which is usually the name of a spring or a source.[14] The dragon took care that his territory received the right amount of rain at the right time, for good growth of the crops. His arch-enemy was the ala, a female demon whose main activity was to lead storm and hail clouds over fields to destroy crops. Whenever he noticed an ala approaching, the dragon would fly up into the clouds to fight against the demon, and kill or chase her away.[17]
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[brunette]

Vima newspaper writes that the FYROM Prime Minister deliberately slowing finding a solution because there is reason for this policy - we have 133 countries have recognized under its constitutional name. I'd agree with that.

[Dacul]

A good cognate,linked to bagpipe,but not to celts from Great Britain,to those from Portugal:
bagpipe - in english - gajde in albanian - gajde in serbo-croatian and gaiida in bulgarian,gajta/gaita de fole in portughesse/spanish/galician.
So here a serbian singing serbian folk music at gajde:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ptwl9LUFrU
I know there are plenty of cognates between south slavic and celtic languages.
And here alboz with gajde:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQhKX...eature=related
Here another serb singing at bagpipe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Zxk...eature=related
And here some romanian traditional folk music at bagpipe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzJmzfOceJc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pLOk...25940D73AB02A2

[rashka]

I always felt that there was a connection with the Celts and the Serbs. Dancing is also similar. It looks like the Celts had brought with them a style they had coming from Yugoslavia and from a bit more northwestwards - the heartland of the Celts.

Just some samples of similarities. Though there are more than this.

Gaulish/ Welsh/ Slavic

to be: Gaulish BETO/ Welsh BYDIO/ Slavic BITI, Srb Sl Cz O. Blg
hill: Gaulish BRIGA also hillfort/ Welsh BRIG/ Slavic BREG, Srb Sl Blg (Breg, Brdo Serbian)
whole: Gaulish CIALLOS/ Welsh HOLLOL/ Slavic ĈJAL, Blg, CEL sl, čIO,CEL CELA Srb
right: Gaulish DEX/ Welsh DEHAU/ Slavic DESEN, Blg Sl, DESNO Srb
dead: Gaulish MARVOS/ Welsh MARW/ Slavic MĂRTĂV, Blg, MRTAV,SMRT Srb
sky: Gaulish NEMO/ Welsh NEF/ Slavic NEBE, Sl Cz Blg, NEBO Srb
five: Gaulish PEMPE/ Welsh PUMP five/ slavic PENTĂ, O.Blg, PET Srb
hot: Gaulish VRITU / Welsh GWRES / Slavic VROĈ, VREL Sl, (VREO, VRUć, GREJE Srb)


Sharpener
Gaulish: PASTERNACES
Serbian: oštrač

Tribal names end often in CI: BELOVACI, VOLCI, CADURCI resembling Slavic local names

Gaulish nouns often end in O: DERVO tree similar to Serbian endings in O such as DRVO tree in Serbian.

Male names end often end in O: BORVO, SEGOMO, similar to Slavic BORKO, BANO, DARKO


Some Serbian Irish Dancers

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[Drawing-slim]

as i said earlier in a post, monday tusday wed serbs start up north slowly down to central europe then back to having delusions about illyrians on weekends
Eccordingly to the schedule i put up, nice rashka lol

[rashka]

as i said earlier in a post, monday tusday wed serbs start up north slowly down to central europe then back to having delusions about illyrians on weekends
Eccordingly to the schedule i put up, nice rashka lol

Moderator please delete this ^^ meaningless post ^^. It has no value to the topic at hand.

[Guapo]

as i said earlier in a post, monday tusday wed serbs start up north slowly down to central europe then back to having delusions about illyrians on weekends
Eccordingly to the schedule i put up, nice rashka lol

drawing live = dumb, learn how to spell before posting on an english forum, you just make yourself look like a real big idiot.