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    Default What is the origin of N1c in the Baltic States?

    N1c was brought by late newcomers to Europe - racially Mongoloid Finno-Ugrians, and we have no samples of it before the metal ages. But how did it enter the Balic States, or more specifically Lithuania and Old Prussia? I understand Latvia, because they had Livonian influence, and Estonia does not even need a comment, but as much as we know there were no Finnic peoples on the Lithuanian and Prussian territory.



    Wast it brought by:
    1. Finnic slaves sold to the Baltic tribes by the Russian Slavs or Varangians?
    2. Invading Finnic Livonians raping Baltic women?
    3. Some unknown ancient Finnic immigration to this territory?
    4. Or perhaps, the Balts are actually newcomers to the land (from Belarus?), and Finnic peoples genocided the most of native Cordeds like in Finland, just to get later assimilated by the Balts?

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    Ugrofinian + founder effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Ugrofinian + founder effect.
    I know, but what kind of Ugrofinian? Where did these Finno-Ugrians come from, when, and how?

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    What about Estonians? Maybe they are reason of spreading N1c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    What about Estonians? Maybe they are reason of spreading N1c.
    Their close, more southern cousins Livonians would be a better guess I think. Nowadays they are close to extinction, but before Northern Crusades there were quite big and covered all what is now South Estonia and Northern Latvia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    What about Estonians? Maybe they are reason of spreading N1c.
    no man, they came on meteorite
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    I know, but what kind of Ugrofinian? Where did these Finno-Ugrians come from, when, and how?
    It doesn;t matter, as Baltic N comes from one guy who lived 2000+ years ago.

    And all Ugrofinians came from pra-Ugrofinia anyway, so what's the point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    It doesn;t matter, as Baltic N comes from one guy who lived 2000+ years ago.

    And all Ugrofinians came from pra-Ugrofinia anyway, so what's the point?
    The point is how did they make Lithuania non-Indo-European, at least by the y-DNA, probably to some degree by race as well.

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    Veslan you are the stupidest motherfucker on Earth, why are you so persistent about this subject? N1 isn't Mongoloid and isn't Non-Indo European. Fully Nordic Scythian Indo-European from Pazyryk who came back N1b:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazyryk_culture





    N1 in Finns undoubtedly comes from Nordic Indo Europeans, it has nothing to do with Finno-Ugric "Mongoloids".r
    Last edited by Grab the Gauge; 11-03-2017 at 09:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    Veslan you are the stupidest motherfucker on Earth, why are you so persistent about this subject? N1 isn't Mongoloid and isn't Non-Indo European. Fully Nordic Scythian Indo-European from Pazyryk who came back N1b:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazyryk_culture





    N1 in Finns undoubtedly comes from Nordic Scythian Indo Europeans, it has nothing to do Finno-Ugric "Mongoloids".

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