Finally, Catalan separatists finish in jail

[caviezel]

Catalan indepes don't need Soros for that, they all alone are sinking catalan economy into depression for years to come, and maybe spanish economy too.
Until now almost 2000 companies have changed their registered office to others spanish places, mainly Madrid. These companies are more than 30% of catalan GDP.

my nigga Soros is gonna bail them out if they follow his guidelines.

[crazyladybutterfly]

this is quite fascist

[Tietar]

I'm speaking of public opinion. I'm not speaking of Spain's laws, dumb ass. Do any of you understand what typically happens when political figures who aren't violent are arrested for a cause? The world of public opinion turns against that government. This is something that needs to be considered. What harm could these politicians do if they weren't arrested? Talk. That is it. They wouldn't have any real power.

They have divided society, friends and even families, they have insulted Spain severely, they have disobeyed the orders of the constitutional court, they have used the Catalan police as a political police, they have embezzled public funds, they have caused losses for Catalonia of billions,

https://okdiario.com/investigacion/2...esas-1-1396421

In any country in the world this is one of the most serious crimes, and you say that justice should let them continue because of world public opinion?

[Cristiano viejo]

this is quite fascist

Oh, I would wish.
The reality is that they fucked the law, and now the law fucks them.

You should read the order of the judge where all their crimes are quoted; you would see how you change your opinion.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

They have divided society, friends and even families, they have insulted Spain severely, they have disobeyed the orders of the constitutional court, they have used the Catalan police as a political police, they have embezzled public funds, they have caused losses for Catalonia of billions,

https://okdiario.com/investigacion/2...esas-1-1396421

In any country in the world this is one of the most serious crimes, and you say that justice should let them continue because of world public opinion?

The only legitimate criminal reason you've given is embezzlement of public funds but if that was the case these handful of politicians would have been arrested long before and put on trial. The Spanish government wouldn't have waited now to do it. The rest is just throwing accusations at the wall and hoping something sticks. You need evidence that these politicians used the Catalan police as a 'political police.' It's not enough to accuse people of it. Politicians losing the region money because businesses are leaving the area as a consequence of political turmoil is not a crime. That families are squabbling over politics is not a crime. That it's legal to arrest them for disobeying the Spanish Constitution may be politically legitimate in Spain but when speaking of public opinion it won't be seen that way. We have politicians here in the US who disobey Federal laws all the time based on conscious. Normally what Washington does is starve the state/city of Federal money to force their hand. What they don't do is arrest them for something that isn't a real crime.

[adsız]

Oh, I would wish.
The reality is that they fucked the law, and now the law fucks them.

You should read the order of the judge where all their crimes are quoted; you would see how you change your opinion.

Do you think Barzani who conducted independence referendum in North Iraq should also be jailed ?

[Cristiano viejo]

Do you think Barzani who conducted independence referendum in North Iraq should also be jailed ?

I have read that Kurds who did that illegal referendum are in jail.

[B01AB20]

The reasons of the judge to put in custody the ex-catalan govern may be juridically correct I guess, but the political opportunity to do it is frankly inappropiate.

It gives indepes a new reason to keep togheter and playing hard the role of victims of oppresion again, now that they were quite confused and dispersed due to the vaudeville of Puchi in Belgium and the peaceful and successful aplication of the 155 in catalonia.

This's a political battle above all, and this is a splendid present of cental goverment* to indepes in their worst moment.

*Not the judge, but the public prosecutor who sued catalan ex-goverment is at orders of cental goverment.

It's difficult to say who is more stupid in all this melodrama, and meanwhile economy is going to shit...

[Kriptc06]

he better run to another country and apply for asylum hes screwed

[Tietar]

The only legitimate criminal reason you've given is embezzlement of public funds but if that was the case these handful of politicians would have been arrested long before and put on trial. The Spanish government wouldn't have waited now to do it. The rest is just throwing accusations at the wall and hoping something sticks. You need evidence that these politicians used the Catalan police as a 'political police.' It's not enough to accuse people of it. Politicians losing the region money because businesses are leaving the area as a consequence of political turmoil is not a crime. That families are squabbling over politics is not a crime. That it's legal to arrest them for disobeying the Spanish Constitution may be politically legitimate in Spain but when speaking of public opinion it won't be seen that way. We have politicians here in the US who disobey Federal laws all the time based on conscious. Normally what Washington does is starve the state/city of Federal money to force their hand. What they don't do is arrest them for something that isn't a real crime.

Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383

Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384