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    Now Kosovo you're doomed.

    NIGERIA AND UGANDA REMOVED FROM LIST OF STATES THAT RECOGNIZE KOSOVO
    Nov 3, 2017
    PHOTOAFP 2016 / ARMEND NIMANI

    The Kosovo Ministry of Foreign Affairs has published an updated list of countries that have recognized Kosovo, Tanjug reported on Friday.

    The agency cited the Pristina-based Albanian language daily Koha Ditore, which writes that Nigeria and Uganda have been removed from the list – and that Pristina never received their recognition notes.

    These alleged recognitions were announced in 2011 and 2012 by Behgjet Pacollli, who now serves as Kosovo’s foreign minister. This was happening during the second term of then PM Hashim Thaci.

    Pacolli was also announcing Mali’s recognition, but that country was never included in the official list.

    On Thursday, the newspaper said that nine years after making the declaration of independence, Kosovo does not know how many countries have recognized its “statehood.”

    All this comes after Suriname informed Serbia that it was revoking its recognition of Kosovo.

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    Nigeria has never recognised Kosovo - diplomat

    Nigeria has never recognised Kosovo's independence, and it stands by the position that it does not recognise Kosovo's independence, Nigerian Charge d' Affaires Chijioke Mchardy Ani told Tanjug Friday.

    Nigeria has not changed its position on the matter, which means that it does not recognise Kosovo's independence, he explained.

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    Kosovo has more control over its total territory than Cyprus. The recognizing pillars are US, Britain, France, and Germany. The rest are fillers that essentially don't have much of an effect either positively or negatively. What recognitions are important for is for an area or state to have legitimate control over a territory. Kosovo has signed many deals with Serbia regarding its legitimate control over the territory, it just doesn't have the recognitions. Since the recognitions are needed to reach the state which Kosovo already has, then the need for recognitions is quite small. Kosovo's problem are corruption which is hindering the signing of more beneficial deals and the progress towards the EU which is the ultimate goal.

    Kosovo could have 180 states recognizing it but still be blocked from joining the UN. It could also have 2 states recognizing it and still have all the attributes of an independent state along with good possibilities for development.

    tldr: You're trying to blast Kosovo due to some un-recognitions, while your brother state Cyprus is more fucked despite UN membership. It makes your point kind of ironic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albobalboa View Post
    Kosovo has more control over its total territory than Cyprus. The recognizing pillars are US, Britain, France, and Germany. The rest are fillers that essentially don't have much of an effect either positively or negatively. What recognitions are important for is for an area or state to have legitimate control over a territory. Kosovo has signed many deals with Serbia regarding its legitimate control over the territory, it just doesn't have the recognitions. Since the recognitions are needed to reach the state which Kosovo already has, then the need for recognitions is quite small. Kosovo's problem are corruption which is hindering the signing of more beneficial deals and the progress towards the EU which is the ultimate goal.

    Kosovo could have 180 states recognizing it but still be blocked from joining the UN. It could also have 2 states recognizing it and still have all the attributes of an independent state along with good possibilities for development.

    tldr: You're trying to blast Kosovo due to some un-recognitions, while your brother state Cyprus is more fucked despite UN membership. It makes your point kind of ironic.
    Despite Turks invading and seizing the richest part of the island and the resulting of the the creation of over 200,000 refugees, Cyprus still has better living standards than Kosovo and is nowhere as poor.

    The ironic part of the Kosovo story is that Albanians enjoyed much better living standards under the Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    Despite Turks invading and seizing the richest part of the island and the resulting of the the creation of over 200,000 refugees, Cyprus still has better living standards than Kosovo and is nowhere as poor.

    The ironic part of the Kosovo story is that Albanians enjoyed much better living standards under the Serbs.
    Cyprus is in the EU and the Cyprus war was much further back. Economies can change but territory changes are much more difficult. Fact is Cyprus geopolitically is even worse off than Kosovo lol. Only the capital of your geopolitical rival has a 10x greater population than all of Cyprus, if the EU doesn't hold up there is only one way things can go for Cyprus.

    The ironic part of your statement is that it is false.



    By 2016 the Kosovo GDP per capita was 2x what it was during the peak of Yugoslavia, 1980. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Kosovo
    Much of Yugoslavia's economy went to shit in the 9 years following but it was still before the wars, and with that considered the economy now is well above what it was then. So I wonder how dumb you are to not actually fact-check your claims?

    My original point was clear and it still holds. Kosovo has more control of its total territory than Cyprus does, regardless of recognitions. Recognitions are a means by which to reach a goal of state-building, but Kosovo has already reached that goal more than many other actually UN recognized states. What Kosovo needs is to combat corruption and focus on the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    Despite Turks invading and seizing the richest part of the island and the resulting of the the creation of over 200,000 refugees, Cyprus still has better living standards than Kosovo and is nowhere as poor.

    The ironic part of the Kosovo story is that Albanians enjoyed much better living standards under the Serbs.
    Turks took the part of the island which should have belonged to the Turks ever since the beginning. Turks had a state control dating back 16th century in the island. The Greek-speaking mongrels never ruled anything on that island. They are dominated by foreigners since early antiquity, that started with Old Assyria, Pharoahs of Egypt and even Achaemenid Persians controlling them and continued all over history; including medieval Crusader control (Richard of Lionheart taking over the island with 500 men).

    You should also tell about 2 British occupation zones in the southern Greek part of Cyprus, one in the east the other in the south of the island.


    British zones have their own adminstration, police and even firefighting squads.
    Those lands aren't part of Greek Cyprus but Britain.





    So there are 3 administrations in Cyprus, each controlling some lands on the island: Turkish, Greek and British.
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